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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1841 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:49 pm

Before we get to the storm system around Christmas, we need to keep an eye on the weather tomorrow, especially across south and east Texas as a potent disturbance tracks across the region (coming out in a slight negative tilt). Depending on how far north the warm front can get, we could see some severe weather across this area, especially close to the coast.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1842 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:55 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:Before we get to the storm system around Christmas, we need to keep an eye on the weather tomorrow, especially across south and east Texas as a potent disturbance tracks across the region (coming out in a slight negative tilt). Depending on how far north the warm front can get, we could see some severe weather across this area, especially close to the coast.

Yep, could even be some tornadoes mixed in from what I’ve been hearing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1843 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:57 pm

Brent wrote::double: 12z euro snow map

http://i66.tinypic.com/210gb3b.jpg

Move it up north a little bit and we’re good.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1844 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:07 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:Before we get to the storm system around Christmas, we need to keep an eye on the weather tomorrow, especially across south and east Texas as a potent disturbance tracks across the region (coming out in a slight negative tilt). Depending on how far north the warm front can get, we could see some severe weather across this area, especially close to the coast.

Yep, could even be some tornadoes mixed in from what I’ve been hearing.


SPC said they could possibly upgrade it to marginal, at least, for a three hour window of opportunity if the warm front moves further inland northwest from the coast.

SPC AC 151728

Day 2 Convective Outlook
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1128 AM CST Fri Dec 15 2017

Valid 161200Z - 171200Z

...NO SEVERE THUNDERSTORM AREAS FORECAST...

...SUMMARY...
Isolated thunderstorms are possible from parts of south and east
Texas Saturday and east Texas and Louisiana Saturday evening and
overnight.

...Southeast Texas coastal area...

Model consensus is that the upper low over northern Mexico will
accelerate and eject northeast through the Southern Plains later
Saturday afternoon and overnight in response to an upstream wave,
while an offshore warm front lifts north and approaches the
southeast TX coast. Stronger forcing for deep ascent will remain
well north of warm sector, but a weak surface cyclone is forecast to
develop and move northeast along the TX coast Saturday night.
Current indications are that the richer low-level moisture and warm
sector will remain just offshore with low 60s F dewpoints along the
coast. However, if the surface low and warm front can develop a
little farther northwest, there will be a small window (2-3 hours)
where a small warm sector with upper 60s F dewpoints could spread
into southeast TX including the Galveston area later Saturday night.
This scenario would support at least a marginal threat for surface
based supercells and possibly a tornado in a high shear/low cape
environment.
Given the uncertainty regarding inland advance of the
warm sector, will maintain less than 5% severe probabilities this
update, but a marginal risk category might be warranted in later
outlooks
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1845 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:08 pm

:uarrow:
Yeah I think a Marginal Risk area is needed based on the latest high-resolution model guidance. We'll see if they upgrade it tonight.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1846 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:18 pm

18z GFS looks like it could continue with another run of a major storm. SW trough digging and the Arctic front is making through Texas

1048mb into Wyoming which is stronger than 12z's 1042 and closer to euro
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1847 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:21 pm

Freezing rain, sleet breaking out in Central Texas Friday 22nd afternoon on hour 168
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1848 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:23 pm

Temps at DFW are 30F and falling with a mess along I-35 Friday night. Heavy freezing rain in Austin

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1849 Postby texas1836 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:24 pm

Ntxw wrote:18z GFS looks like it could continue with another run of a major storm. SW trough digging and the Arctic front is making through Texas

1048mb into Wyoming which is stronger than 12z's 1042 and closer to euro


24" of snow in McKinney would be great. It appears it's getting close.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1850 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:25 pm

TarrantWx wrote:When do the models show the precipitation starting in the DFW area? I've been so busy with work I haven't had time to look at the models the past few days. I'm supposed to fly home from Orlando next Friday evening, so I'm wondering if I need to start looking for flights on Thursday instead.


Definitely try for Thursday. Don't even chance it.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1851 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:26 pm

Yep another big winter storm on the 18z GFS. More ice and less snow than the Euro.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1852 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:28 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:Yep another big winter storm on the 18z GFS. More ice and less snow than the Euro.


There are a lot of similarities between the two models now overall. The difference is the temp profiles which I don't expect anything close to reality until midweek.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1853 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:29 pm

Once again on the GFS the cold has a hard time making it to SE TX. Low 40’s and rain for most of the area through the 23rd.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1854 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:30 pm

Verbatim from the 18z GFS an area from Austin to Northeast Texas would be entombed in ice, quite a bad run for the I-35 corridor of a crippling ice storm.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1855 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:30 pm

More than 24 hours of freezing rain across central Texas this run. Yikes.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1856 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:30 pm

Euro over the gfs please

All that ice is no bueno
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1857 Postby Portastorm » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:31 pm

Yeah, that 18z GFS turns the City of Austin into a glacier. :eek:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1858 Postby ThunderSleetDreams » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:32 pm

Cpv17 wrote:Once again on the GFS the cold has a hard time making it to SE TX. Low 40’s and rain for most of the area through the 23rd.



That won’t happen
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1859 Postby Ntxw » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:32 pm

Still icing heading into Christmas Eve

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#1860 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:34 pm

Gets very close to icing in SA as well this run. I suspect the freeze line might end up being southeast of where the GFS has it.
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