Southern Plains winter wx thread (2009-2010)
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The 12z GFS has the same idea as the NAM...
It looks likely that there will be some light snow all the way north to I-40, but the bulk of the heavier bands and more significant accumulations should be closer to the Red River. It could be a close call though. Any slight deviation north/south could mean big changes in the forecast for those near/just south of the I-40 corridor.
It looks likely that there will be some light snow all the way north to I-40, but the bulk of the heavier bands and more significant accumulations should be closer to the Red River. It could be a close call though. Any slight deviation north/south could mean big changes in the forecast for those near/just south of the I-40 corridor.
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Based on my current read of the situation, here is a look at my prediction for snow amounts in the state of Oklahoma during this event...
These areas may need to be adjusted north or south some depending on how the snow bands actually develop tomorrow and also depending on how the surface temperatures set up, but for now I think this is a pretty good idea of how things will play out across the area with this storm.
VERIFICATION:
Actual storm snow totals: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e371/ ... als_14.jpg
Overall my general idea verified with higher snowfall amounts south and lower totals as you moved northward. I did underestimate the snowfall amounts in a few areas though. A few spots in the 1" or less zone wound up receiving as much as 2-3", and a few spots in the 1-3" zone wound up receiving as much as 4-6". I also could have bumped up my wording for the southernmost zone. While the entire 3"+ area did verify, it is worth noting that some places down there picked up as much as 9.2" of snow, which is well above 3". In retrospect, a 6"+ forecast probably would have emphasized the severity better.
In the end I give myself a B- for this forecast. My general thinking was correct, but my snow totals were a bit off (too low) in a few areas.
These areas may need to be adjusted north or south some depending on how the snow bands actually develop tomorrow and also depending on how the surface temperatures set up, but for now I think this is a pretty good idea of how things will play out across the area with this storm.
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VERIFICATION:
Actual storm snow totals: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e371/ ... als_14.jpg
Overall my general idea verified with higher snowfall amounts south and lower totals as you moved northward. I did underestimate the snowfall amounts in a few areas though. A few spots in the 1" or less zone wound up receiving as much as 2-3", and a few spots in the 1-3" zone wound up receiving as much as 4-6". I also could have bumped up my wording for the southernmost zone. While the entire 3"+ area did verify, it is worth noting that some places down there picked up as much as 9.2" of snow, which is well above 3". In retrospect, a 6"+ forecast probably would have emphasized the severity better.
In the end I give myself a B- for this forecast. My general thinking was correct, but my snow totals were a bit off (too low) in a few areas.
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Well that's weird. A random snow band just popped up on radar west of OKC. As of now it looks to avoid my area for the time being, but it will be interesting to see if more of these bands can arise later tonight. The NWS thinks its possible and has added a 30% chance of snow to the forecast for tonight.
http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... rainsnow=0
http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radbl ... rainsnow=0
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BTW, the 00z GFS is also coming in much more impressive than the NAM for Oklahoma tomorrow, and would mean a better chance for light accumulations reaching up to near I-40.
The big question is...which model will be right?
Based on the fact that we already have light snow bands developing here tonight, I am slightly more inclined to believe the GFS right now, but I guess we will not know for sure until it is actually happening (or not).
The big question is...which model will be right?
Based on the fact that we already have light snow bands developing here tonight, I am slightly more inclined to believe the GFS right now, but I guess we will not know for sure until it is actually happening (or not).
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We have light/moderate snow coming down south of OKC right now (in cleveland county). Its beginning to accumulate a little bit on the grass and cars too! It will be interesting to see how long this snow lasts, because if it keeps up much longer, then the NWS forecast of just a "trace" will need to be upped.
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Re: Southern Plains winter wx thread (2009-2010)
Looks like our friends in Dallas got a pretty decent amount of snow out of this system. I saw reports of up to 10 inches in some areas! Looking ahead the next week it looks kind of quite, I heard one of the local TV guys talk about the potential for another strong system around the 25th. I guess we will have to wait and see.
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Re: Southern Plains winter wx thread (2009-2010)
Next week is kind of a "?" right now. Depending on what model you look at, there may or may not be a few systems to deal with. Either way though, it definitely looks like the cold will continue. A new arctic front should arrive on Sunday morning (possibly associated with a few light snow showers? http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_072l.gif), followed by lows dipping back into the teens/lower 20s Sunday and Monday nights. Brr.BlueIce wrote:Looks like our friends in Dallas got a pretty decent amount of snow out of this system. I saw reports of up to 10 inches in some areas! Looking ahead the next week it looks kind of quite, I heard one of the local TV guys talk about the potential for another strong system around the 25th. I guess we will have to wait and see.
As for a system around the 25th, it is really way too far out to tell right now. The 18z GFS does show an impressive storm around the 21st/22nd ( http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_252l.gif ), but being 10 days out I am inclined not to buy into it just yet. If we see model consistency increase as we draw nearer to that time frame though, then it might be something to take note of.
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Re: Southern Plains winter wx thread (2009-2010)
Extremeweatherguy wrote:Next week is kind of a "?" right now. Depending on what model you look at, there may or may not be a few systems to deal with. Either way though, it definitely looks like the cold will continue. A new arctic front should arrive on Sunday morning (possibly associated with a few light snow showers? http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_072l.gif), followed by lows dipping back into the teens/lower 20s Sunday and Monday nights. Brr.BlueIce wrote:Looks like our friends in Dallas got a pretty decent amount of snow out of this system. I saw reports of up to 10 inches in some areas! Looking ahead the next week it looks kind of quite, I heard one of the local TV guys talk about the potential for another strong system around the 25th. I guess we will have to wait and see.
As for a system around the 25th, it is really way too far out to tell right now. The 18z GFS does show an impressive storm around the 21st/22nd ( http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... p_252l.gif ), but being 10 days out I am inclined not to buy into it just yet. If we see model consistency increase as we draw nearer to that time frame though, then it might be something to take note of.
That will be the one to watch IMHO. Ensembles have been 'sniffing' this one and it will be an interesting storm if it verifies. Cold air
should not be a problem.
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Hmm..
Thurs 2/18 6pm CT
Fri 2/19 6am CT
Fri 2/19 6pm CT
Sat 2/20 6am CT
Sat 2/20 6pm CT
Sun 2/21 6am CT
Sun 2/21 6pm CT
Mon 2/22 6am CT
This is still too far out to get worked up about just yet, but the trend of another significant winter storm around the 20th (+/- a day or two) definitely continues with tonight's 00z GFS.
Thurs 2/18 6pm CT
Fri 2/19 6am CT
Fri 2/19 6pm CT
Sat 2/20 6am CT
Sat 2/20 6pm CT
Sun 2/21 6am CT
Sun 2/21 6pm CT
Mon 2/22 6am CT
This is still too far out to get worked up about just yet, but the trend of another significant winter storm around the 20th (+/- a day or two) definitely continues with tonight's 00z GFS.
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The 18z GFS is trying to put down a quick inch or two of snow across central Oklahoma tomorrow. The current NWS forecast is mainly just calling for some light snow/flurries with little to no accumulation, but it will be interesting to see if the latest GFS might be catching onto something. It is worth noting that the 18z NAM does not agree with the GFS at all and is showing 0 inches of accumulation.
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Well folks, the GFS was definitely right!
I just woke up, took a peek out my window, and was shocked at what I saw! We are currently in the middle of quite a nice snow squall! Lots of wind-blown, rapidly accumulating snow coming down right now. It probably won't last long, but by the time it ends we could easily have an inch or two on the ground (which is already almost completely white).
I just woke up, took a peek out my window, and was shocked at what I saw! We are currently in the middle of quite a nice snow squall! Lots of wind-blown, rapidly accumulating snow coming down right now. It probably won't last long, but by the time it ends we could easily have an inch or two on the ground (which is already almost completely white).
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Extremeweatherguy wrote:Well folks, the GFS was definitely right!
I just woke up, took a peek out my window, and was shocked at what I saw! We are currently in the middle of quite a nice snow squall! Lots of wind-blown, rapidly accumulating snow coming down right now. It probably won't last long, but by the time it ends we could easily have an inch or two on the ground (which is already almost completely white).
Those are always nice surprises! Happy for you, as always, EWG! ... and dang jealous!!
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And as quickly as it began, today's snow squall has ended. I haven't taken an actual measurement, but I would estimate that somewhere between 1-1.5 inches has fallen within the last hour. Pretty impressive!
UPDATE: As of 2:02pm, most of this morning's snow has melted. Only a few patches left.
UPDATE: As of 2:02pm, most of this morning's snow has melted. Only a few patches left.
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And it has been dead across Oklahoma, Southern Kansas, Missouri, and Arkansas since this event. Ha ha
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It should pick up soon, March is when the pattern shifts a bit more north and the most prolific snows occur in the northern parts of the southern plains
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yeah, I know. lolwx247 wrote:And it has been dead across Oklahoma, Southern Kansas, Missouri, and Arkansas since this event. Ha ha
It looks like things might get interesting again in about 7-10 days according to the models, but it is still a little too early to get worked up about anything specific just yet. I do think we will see at least one more decent winter event before spring sets in though.
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That's a pretty amazing amount of snow cover as a whole for the country in March! What a winter it has been and continues to be.
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