Winter Storm Euclid? - TWC to name Winter Storms

[RL3AO]

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collec ... cres.shtml

I kinda like it. In today's social media world, a name might get more people aware.

Plus it means we can call named storms busts on here year round.

[cycloneye]

Here is the list of names.

http://www.weather.com/news/weather-win ... s-20121001

[Tireman4]

Ehh. Why am I lukewarm on this? I mean, ok, I get it. The purist in me says...nahh....I am so on the fence.

[brunota2003]

Apparently Kevin Martin's SCWA is throwing fits about this, saying they've been doing it since 2000 and TWC stole his idea

http://www.theweatherspace.com/news/TWS ... annel.html

[Tireman4]

Question is...would the NWS be on board with this........?

[brunota2003]

Apparently Kevin Martin's SCWA is throwing fits about this, saying they've been doing it since 2000 and TWC stole his idea

http://www.theweatherspace.com/news/TWS ... annel.html

And btw, NWS Buffalo has been naming Lake Effect events since at least 1998. TWC's new winter weather expert is the former MIC at Buffalo.
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/lakepage.php

[Tireman4]

Apparently Kevin Martin's SCWA is throwing fits about this, saying they've been doing it since 2000 and TWC stole his idea

http://www.theweatherspace.com/news/TWS ... annel.html

And btw, NWS Buffalo has been naming Lake Effect events since at least 1998. TWC's new winter weather expert is the former MIC at Buffalo.
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/lakepage.php

Well, I stand corrected. I guess my question is refined to, Would all of the NWS offices recognize this?

[brunota2003]

Well, not necessarily corrected. KBUF issues the names out post-event...not during the events. So would any of them be open to it? Not sure...it would be hard to keep track of storms in just text discussions, so I think graphics would have to be implemented.

"We name our lake snow events so it is easier to refer back to them for archiving. This is very unofficial and only past storms are named as a matter of policy. We will post the archived events on this WEB SITE so it is easier for you to refer back to them throughout the snow season.

The theme for this year's storm names is Fish (2010-2011 season) as selected by the staff at NWS Buffalo. We also will continue our tradition of a candid way to rate the storm's impact on the area. It is termed the "Lake Flake Scale" and subjectively ranks the events from 1-flake (*) for minor (wimpy) events to 5-flakes (*****) for epic mega-storms, based not only on snowfall amounts but the impact on population centers as well."

[WeatherGuesser]

With certain board policies here, I'm not sure I'd be allowed to accurately express my opinion of TWC.

[Portastorm]

With certain board policies here, I'm not sure I'd be allowed to accurately express my opinion of TWC.

You're not alone in that camp WeatherGuesser!

I am hard pressed to find any "good" in this idea. Great blizzards and winter storms are named well by a combination of NWS personnel, media, and regular folk. Where else would we have gotten: The Great Blizzard of 1888, the Schoolhouse Blizzard, the Armistice Day Blizzard of 1940, the Storm of the Century (1992), the Halloween Blizzard of 1991, and the Great Blizzard of 1978?

The latter event is something I personally experienced in northeast Ohio and will never forget it!

[Brent]

and TWC continues its decline into oblivion...

[vbhoutex]

Apparently Kevin Martin's SCWA is throwing fits about this, saying they've been doing it since 2000 and TWC stole his idea

http://www.theweatherspace.com/news/TWS ... annel.html

Kevin Martin is a wannabe and nothing else. He was banned from here years ago due to threatening people and bashing people and in fact even threatening my and my family's life. Even the NWS has sent out warnings about him. He has never had a met class in his life but claims to be a professional meteorologist. NOT!!!
As far as naming winter storms, I am on the fence too, leaning more towards not.

[Ntxw]

I concur with Portastorm. There is too many variables and huge bust potential. Setting requirements for naming alone would be a headache. Also due to the nature of localized heavy snow/ice etc I think it's best just to let the people stick a memory to it and name it that for themselves. A rating system is one thing but naming winter storms is going a bit far imo.

If we can name this, who's to say we can't name large swaths of rain that cross large sections the country aka derechos? Or large wind events that likes to sweep the plains every now and then?

[Brent]

I guess my biggest problem with this is there's no set guideline or requirement for a name, and it's gonna vary wildly. A huge snow event in Atlanta persay is a regular day in Minnesota. I'm just not understanding this... At least with hurricane names you know when it'll get named and it doesn't matter where it is or what day of the week it is(actually a guideline on TWC's description)

Also a degree or two difference is the difference between a foot of snow and 2" of rain. I'm just... not getting it.

What about isolated lake effect snow bands? What about ULL's that drop 6" of snow in one spot and 20 miles away it's all rain? What about Alberta clippers? So much fail to this.

[WeatherGuesser]

There is too many variables and huge bust potential. Setting requirements for naming alone would be a headache.

I guess my biggest problem with this is there's no set guideline or requirement for a name

It's an advertising gimmick, nothing more. Don't overthink it.

They're already getting the attention they want. We're talking about it aren't we?

and TWC continues its decline into oblivion...

One can only hope.

Yeah, I know I'm treading a line, but I have no use at all for TWC.

[wxman57]

I think there is value in identifying a potential winter storm in the days leading up to the event. However, there is a big difference between the naming of TCs and the naming of a potential (key word - potential) winter storm. TCs are named for what they currently are, not for what they could be. For example, a disturbance over Africa isn't named "Hurricane Barry" until it actually becomes a hurricane.

Using TWC's plan, a possible storm 3 days from now could be named "Blizzard Caesar". Problem is, it may or may not materialize. I'd prefer to identify the possible storm as "Potential Ohio Valley Snowstorm This Weekend". Perhaps once it's actually happening it could be identified with a name for quick reference. Don't like TWC's list, though.

[somethingfunny]

And btw, NWS Buffalo has been naming Lake Effect events since at least 1998. TWC's new winter weather expert is the former MIC at Buffalo.
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/lakepage.php

They're all named after breeds of cattle!

TWC is trying to do something terrible here IMO.

[lurkey]

and TWC continues its decline into oblivion...

come on .... Brent.... a winter storm called "Wrath of Khan" would be freaking hilarious

[lurkey]

anyone notice this in the list

Harry Potter, LoTR, Shakespeare, Finding Nemo, Rocky, Clash of the Titans, 300 and Star trek memes in this list...


what a marketing gimmick ...... the tag lines are infinite...

[BigB0882]

The first thing I noticed was all the big movie names but obviously the movies got those names from somewhere, they are not original to those movies.