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#201 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:53 pm

Thanks Porta, as expected your thoughts on this winter match what the consensus seems to be on here. Looking forward to an exciting winter of forecasting.
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#202 Postby texas1836 » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:11 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:Thanks Porta, as expected your thoughts on this winter match what the consensus seems to be on here. Looking forward to an exciting winter of forecasting.

Yea, thanks Porta. Looks like it'll be busy on this forum during the Winter.
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#203 Postby Ntxw » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:43 pm

And so it begins...good vs. evil, cold vs warm, GFS vs Euro!

Good work Portastorm, and good luck with that forecast!
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#204 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:57 am

Great forecast Porta! Cant wait for this winter. Gonig to be a doooozzzzy.
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#205 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:39 am

Nice Forecast, and as the others have said, I am stoked for this winter! :D
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#206 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:50 am

Just dont rely on the gfs. Guess we want it to show blazing heat and drought over the southern US then we will know its going to be a real cold and wintry mess. :D
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#207 Postby wxman57 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:31 pm

gboudx wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:To Wxman 57..Yer gonna lose...nah nah nahh!!!! (LOL)


Don't poke the Bear. You don't want him to use his voodoo powers for evil(heat). :lol:


Yeah! I'm pulling for a very early freeze this year. Just one freeze, though. ;-)
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#208 Postby Texas Snowman » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:02 pm

:uarrow: Ahh, it's almost that time of the year again. Let the winter wars begin with our beloved Heat Miser! :D
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#209 Postby Portastorm » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:24 pm

Texas Snowman wrote::uarrow: Ahh, it's almost that time of the year again. Let the winter wars begin with our beloved Heat Miser! :D


I'm worried that he may be relocating some of those West Texas wind turbines to plant them all along our state's northern border. He would just blow the cold, Arctic air back up north again by turning those "fans" on the high setting!
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#210 Postby Portastorm » Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:00 am

I would highly recommend that y'all go to JB's WeatherBell site and watch the video weather summary for Saturday, October 25th. He shares his thoughts on this coming winter. A lot of interesting stuff he packs into 11 minutes.
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#211 Postby gboudx » Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:24 pm

Thanks for the video mention Porta. It was a good and interesting watch. I hope we start to see the pattern take shape soon. The leaves want to start turning colors but temps are cooperating lately.
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#212 Postby Portastorm » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:48 am

And the hits keep on coming ... I see this morning from several weather sources that Eurasian snow cover for this time of year is now the second highest amount since they've been keeping records. It just surpassed 2009. Hmm ... both the winters of 76-77 and 09-10 were rather brutal weren't they?! :wink:

The predominant AO/NAO signals this winter will be negative. Lots of cold air to flood the CONUS. I can hear those hounds of winter howling already.
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#213 Postby Tireman4 » Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:12 am

Portastorm wrote:And the hits keep on coming ... I see this morning from several weather sources that Eurasian snow cover for this time of year is now the second highest amount since they've been keeping records. It just surpassed 2009. Hmm ... both the winters of 76-77 and 09-10 were rather brutal weren't they?! :wink:

The predominant AO/NAO signals this winter will be negative. Lots of cold air to flood the CONUS. I can hear those hounds of winter howling already.


I have ordered two ( count em)...propane heaters for Wxman 57's office. He is right down the street from me, so I will make sure to check in on him..LOL ( laughing out loud...he he)
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#214 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:15 am

Question for an expert.... JB posted a pic in comparison to 2007 of how fast the snowcover has advanced in Siberia compared to normal..... Woah. Could this early, rapid snowcover be the reason why we are in a warming trend right now? Could the large amount of cold snow packed air be messing with the jet stream which (for now) leads to a warm Oct for us? Im starting to think it has something to do with it. With massive cold pool over Siberia, and the way the dynamics play out right now, i think its causing the US to have almost an Omega block over the lower 48. Not seeing the huge drop in the EPO yet for some reason.

I expect this to change as winter approaches though. Or in mid November. It just seems like this rapid snowpack development is messing with the upper level air over us somehow, just not sure how to connect the dots. Thanks guys. Im a heavy thinker so i have racked my brain on this one.
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#215 Postby aggiecutter » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:43 pm

Updated Winter Forecast(Public-Free) from JB and Weatherbell Analytics:

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#216 Postby Ntxw » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:14 pm

TeamPlayersBlue wrote:Question for an expert.... JB posted a pic in comparison to 2007 of how fast the snowcover has advanced in Siberia compared to normal..... Woah. Could this early, rapid snowcover be the reason why we are in a warming trend right now? Could the large amount of cold snow packed air be messing with the jet stream which (for now) leads to a warm Oct for us? Im starting to think it has something to do with it. With massive cold pool over Siberia, and the way the dynamics play out right now, i think its causing the US to have almost an Omega block over the lower 48. Not seeing the huge drop in the EPO yet for some reason.

I expect this to change as winter approaches though. Or in mid November. It just seems like this rapid snowpack development is messing with the upper level air over us somehow, just not sure how to connect the dots. Thanks guys. Im a heavy thinker so i have racked my brain on this one.


This is a very complex question. Dr. Judah Cohen's paper of the SAI (snow advance index) sets the notion that quick growth of snow cover across Eurasia (in October not the other months) has high correlation with ensuing winter -AO. The snow strengthens the Siberian high pressure (freezer of the Northern Hemisphere) which provides a heat flux into the stratosphere. And when you warm the stratosphere suddenly it is known as sudden stratospheric warming or SSW event. This promotes -AO which dislodges low heights, big storms, and cold air to the mid latitudes. Except though when you're building snow in Eurasia you're usually milder on the other side in NA (seesaw). The stratosphere vortex is setting up shop now and with the snow advance we're going to beat it down next month. I'm very confident of the -AO coming this winter, possibly one of the strongest years.

The low level cold air isn't there yet like it was last year as the EPO has been swaying back and forth and really not a player at this time as you've mentioned. When it gets cold this year it will not be the same overall as last year with big high pressure domes. We'll get cold from deep low pressure systems drawing cold air behind them and cutoff lows bringing their cold air from low heights. More akin to 2009-2010 type cold than 2013-2014.
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#217 Postby TheProfessor » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:59 pm

:uarrow: which, was still cold, I remember around New Year 2009-10 it got cold enough for a long enough period to freeze ponds all the way down into Arlington.
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#218 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:25 am

Thanks Ntwx! As you said in your post, the building of snow in Eurasia is leading to warm weather here. So excited for this winter!
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#219 Postby Ralph's Weather » Thu Oct 30, 2014 1:26 pm

The teleconnections look to be set up for the cold to build up north after this weekend for a few weeks. I expect winter to come crashing in sometime after mid-Nov. When it does it will get cold quick I expect.
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#220 Postby texas1836 » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:00 pm

Ralph's Weather wrote:The teleconnections look to be set up for the cold to build up north after this weekend for a few weeks. I expect winter to come crashing in sometime after mid-Nov. When it does it will get cold quick I expect.

I saw that this morning. I hope it holds up, it could be interesting.
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