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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2201 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:36 pm

It still looks like it's gonna get quite chilly here during the last week of December. If we can get a disturbance or some lingering moisture, we might have a shot at some snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2202 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:37 pm

another 6 inches in Alabama :roll:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2203 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:38 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:It still looks like it's gonna get quite chilly here during the last week of December. If we can get a disturbance or some lingering moisture, we might have a shot at some snow.
We still have another week before this event happens. This will change. Don't give up hope.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2204 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:40 pm

starsfan65 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:It still looks like it's gonna get quite chilly here during the last week of December. If we can get a disturbance or some lingering moisture, we might have a shot at some snow.
We still have another week before this event happens. This will change.

Yep it sure will change.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2205 Postby weatherdude1108 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:41 pm

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bubba hotep wrote:Pretty decent rain out this way tonight.


Yeah this turned out to be a nice rain event. Models underestimated it, especially across central and north Texas.


I got 1.3 inches out of it today. Puddles in backyard! :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2206 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:41 pm

it sure is cold though, DFW in the 20s all day December 26th and 27th

Highs in the upper 30s Christmas Eve and Christmas Day
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2207 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:42 pm

starsfan65 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:It still looks like it's gonna get quite chilly here during the last week of December. If we can get a disturbance or some lingering moisture, we might have a shot at some snow.
We still have another week before this event happens. This will change. Don't give up hope.


It probably will. But ironically enough, the models are drier because they are seeing a colder incoming air mass aloft. It is shredding the cutoff low solution that sits and rides warm air from the SW (moisture above it in the marginal temps) and shoves everything south and east.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2208 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:44 pm

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starsfan65 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:It still looks like it's gonna get quite chilly here during the last week of December. If we can get a disturbance or some lingering moisture, we might have a shot at some snow.
We still have another week before this event happens. This will change. Don't give up hope.


It probably will. But ironically enough, the models are drier because they are seeing a colder incoming air mass aloft. It is shredding the cutoff low solution that sits and rides warm air from the SW (moisture above it in the marginal temps) and shoves everything south and east.

Whatever happened to the SE ridge?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2209 Postby missygirl810 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:45 pm

Ntxw wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:It still looks like it's gonna get quite chilly here during the last week of December. If we can get a disturbance or some lingering moisture, we might have a shot at some snow.
We still have another week before this event happens. This will change. Don't give up hope.


It probably will. But ironically enough, the models are drier because they are seeing a colder incoming air mass aloft. It is shredding the cutoff low solution that sits and rides warm air from the SW (moisture above it in the marginal temps) and shoves everything south and east.



Just curious as to what you think might change?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2210 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:45 pm

Ntxw wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:It still looks like it's gonna get quite chilly here during the last week of December. If we can get a disturbance or some lingering moisture, we might have a shot at some snow.
We still have another week before this event happens. This will change. Don't give up hope.


It probably will. But ironically enough, the models are drier because they are seeing a colder incoming air mass aloft. It is shredding the cutoff low solution that sits and rides warm air from the SW (moisture above it in the marginal temps) and shoves everything south and east.


Yeah the progged cold air mass will be deep enough for snow if we can get a lingering disturbance with it. Thicknesses are favorable for snow as the dominant precip type.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2211 Postby Brent » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:45 pm

meanwhile the CMC has 60s on Christmas Eve and 70s in Houston Christmas Day LOL
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2212 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:45 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:We still have another week before this event happens. This will change. Don't give up hope.


It probably will. But ironically enough, the models are drier because they are seeing a colder incoming air mass aloft. It is shredding the cutoff low solution that sits and rides warm air from the SW (moisture above it in the marginal temps) and shoves everything south and east.

Whatever happened to the SE ridge?


It's there but weaker. When you have 1057+ MB highs it's really hard not to press the cold. Lost in the disappoint posts of snow/ice, is that monstrous HP domes are showing up.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2213 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:48 pm

Winter storm in north TX on the GFS the day before New Years Eve.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2214 Postby Cpv17 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:49 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
It probably will. But ironically enough, the models are drier because they are seeing a colder incoming air mass aloft. It is shredding the cutoff low solution that sits and rides warm air from the SW (moisture above it in the marginal temps) and shoves everything south and east.

Whatever happened to the SE ridge?


It's there but weaker. When you have 1057+ MB highs it's really hard not to press the cold. Lost in the disappoint posts of snow/ice, is that monstrous HP domes are showing up.


Is that actually detrimental to our chances of getting snow/ice? You’d figure it would be better since it will be colder?
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2215 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:50 pm

missygirl810 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:We still have another week before this event happens. This will change. Don't give up hope.


It probably will. But ironically enough, the models are drier because they are seeing a colder incoming air mass aloft. It is shredding the cutoff low solution that sits and rides warm air from the SW (moisture above it in the marginal temps) and shoves everything south and east.



Just curious as to what you think might change?


Probably a lot. Come Mon-Weds I think we'll know if it makes or breaks (the big storm)
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2216 Postby missygirl810 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:52 pm

Ntxw wrote:
missygirl810 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
It probably will. But ironically enough, the models are drier because they are seeing a colder incoming air mass aloft. It is shredding the cutoff low solution that sits and rides warm air from the SW (moisture above it in the marginal temps) and shoves everything south and east.



Just curious as to what you think might change?


Probably a lot. Come Mon-Weds I think we'll know if it makes or breaks (the big storm)


I am scared to find out to be honest lol. Just have a feeling it will be cold and that is all.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2217 Postby Ntxw » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:52 pm

Cpv17 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:Whatever happened to the SE ridge?


It's there but weaker. When you have 1057+ MB highs it's really hard not to press the cold. Lost in the disappoint posts of snow/ice, is that monstrous HP domes are showing up.


Is that actually detrimental to our chances of getting snow/ice? You’d figure it would be better since it will be colder?


Cold alone is not enough. You need moisture, having a big low sitting to your west pumping up Pacific moisture at 30-33 is a lot easier than 850s going -10C and the zone between cold and warm is along the coast...of Louisiana.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2218 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:53 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:Winter storm in north TX on the GFS the day before New Years Eve.


Despite the bad model trends today, the potential is certainly there for a winter wx system at some point. The 12z Euro EPS actually increased the chances for winter wx across N. Texas over the next two weeks, even as it decreased the chances of a big Christmas system.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2219 Postby TheProfessor » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:53 pm

This map show how bad the winter storm drought has been in parts of the Midwest, Plains, and southern plains. Image

Columbus is approaching 2 years without a WSW and it's been well over 2 years here in Dallas. I'm not sure if they take the latest date a WSW was issued for a CWO because if so then this is likely referring to the Early 2015 snowfalls that only had a few counties in a warning that went up pretty late. It's been even longer for most of the Metroplex I believe.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#2220 Postby South Texas Storms » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:54 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
South Texas Storms wrote:Winter storm in north TX on the GFS the day before New Years Eve.


Despite the bad model trends today, the potential is certainly there for a winter wx system at some point. The 12z Euro EPS actually increased the chances for winter wx across N. Texas over the next two weeks, even as it decreased the chances of a big Christmas system.


Yeah it looks like one ingredient will be there, and that's the cold. We just need the second one to be there as well, and that's the disturbance.
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