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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8861 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:05 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
Ntxw wrote:More rain to the south and west of DFW. Looks like training has set up.

-SOI


Wish yall would share some rain with us moisture starved folks in central TX. Looks like the main thunderstorm complex might pass south of us tonight...

SA and Austin have had under 1 inch of rain so far this year.

Radar trends lead bee to believe that Austin needs the front before the show will begin.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8862 Postby gboudx » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:19 pm

JayDT wrote:Apparently Jim Cantore is on his way to Dallas :eek: lol


Why would he come here for a cold rain? :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8863 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:21 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:
Ntxw wrote:More rain to the south and west of DFW. Looks like training has set up.

-SOI


Wish yall would share some rain with us moisture starved folks in central TX. Looks like the main thunderstorm complex might pass south of us tonight...

SA and Austin have had under 1 inch of rain so far this year.


Still some more rounds through tomorrow, I think Austin and SA will get a good dose of it. And likely more rounds throughout the week
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8864 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:22 pm

gboudx wrote:
JayDT wrote:Apparently Jim Cantore is on his way to Dallas :eek: lol


Why would he come here for a cold rain? :wink:


Maybe he will go just NW of DFW once he arrives. Some modeled QPF is staggering with temps in the 20s for them.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8865 Postby Cerlin » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:25 pm

My flight is finally leaving San Antonio. Hopefully we’ll make it in this time! :wink:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8866 Postby JDawg512 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:32 pm

Cerlin wrote:My flight is finally leaving San Antonio. Hopefully we’ll make it in this time! :wink:


I'd be curious how crowded it is at Austin-Bergstrom International this evening with diverts cause if you were diverted to SA then chances are it's pretty packed at ABIA. I guess I'll hit my friend up who works over there and ask.


Still waiting for some heavier rain. I'm getting impatient.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8867 Postby OKMet83 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:40 pm

Just an FYI for any followers... I know Northern TX might just get a glancing blow tomorrow but I'm afraid we will see a significant ice storm unfold tonight through late Tom across portions of Central/Wrn into SRN Oklahoma... Ice storm Warnings might be needed... I would highly suggest making alternate travel plans until Thu PM...
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8868 Postby Ntxw » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:43 pm

opticsguy wrote:Is this air mass so shallow that it is being bottled up by the Caprock and the Llano? The panhandle doesn't seem to bet getting the coldest air or strongest winds.


That's a good point there. The upper cold matches the 500mb flow and the deep cold is up in the panhandle. But near the surface the cold is squeezed between higher ground of West Texas and the uprise in eastern Oklahoma known as the Ouachita Mountains. The shallower, dense cold air near the surface has no problem using this pathway despite guidance for days not allowing it to push south of the Okla/KS border. Thus the 20-40F busts in the mentioned regions.

SE ridge is also not letting it push much more eastward. 70s on the eastern seaboard today

I added the green layer option on the meso analysis to highlight the higher terrain

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This is the second time this month the sequence has occurred this way
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8869 Postby Brent » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:45 pm

Cerlin wrote:My flight is finally leaving San Antonio. Hopefully we’ll make it in this time! :wink:


We somehow landed at DFW but things seemed to be a little better as i was leaving at 6pm. Good luck
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8870 Postby JDawg512 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:47 pm

Good luck Curlin, hope you make it there. All flights to DFW from here have been cancelled so that sums it up that it's a mess up there.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8871 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:50 pm

utweather wrote:
weatherdude1108 wrote:I know this has been alluded to already here, but the EWX mentioned how the cold front is much stronger than what guidance picked up on, mentioning how Wichita Falls went from 71 to 36 in an hour, and given the density of the shallow arctic airmass, models now show the front making it all the way to the coast, with continued rain chances in the extended. It would be great if we got a couple inches, at least, out of this. Soils are dry around here.

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Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Austin/San Antonio TX
312 PM CST Tue Feb 20 2018

.SHORT TERM (Tonight through Wednesday Night)...
Showers and isolated thunderstorms have pushed to the eastern half of
the area at the present time with more robust activity currently
located in North Texas. The best low-level jet dynamics are pointing
to this same area and this will likely keep the bulk of the activity
in those places for several more hours. The attention will then turn
to the southwest as another impulse of energy within the subtropical
jet moves into the area. High-res models continue to show this area
of shower and thunderstorms moving northeast into the area this
evening. At the same time a strong arctic cold front will also be
pushing south and this will bring additional activity into our
northern counties in the evening hours as well. Showers and
thunderstorms will likely continue through most of the night and
into Wednesday before downsloping behind the front moves into the
region lessening the coverage.
The threat of heavy rainfall will
likely diminish after the FROPA as well as the access to rich
boundary layer fuel is cut off. With today`s precipitation not
included, additional rainfall amounts through tomorrow will average
1-2 inches for areas north of I-10 with slightly higher amounts for
the Austin area and points to the north. There will be lesser amounts
to the southwest of the I-10 corridor. There could be some isolated
spots reaching 3-4 inches in the higher rainfall areas.
Although we
can`t rule out any small hail with some of the stronger updrafts,
widespread severe weather is not anticipated from the activity.

The expected cold front is much stronger than what most guidance was
able to pick up on and this is not out of the norm for these shallow
arctic airmasses. Earlier this afternoon, the temperature in Wichita
Falls fell from 71 to 36 in an hour. The front is expected to reach
the northern counties before midnight and will move through the
remainder of the area by the mid-morning hours. There were some
thoughts that the front might stall in our area, but with the dense
cold air behind it, that does not seem at all possible and most
guidance members show the front now making it to the coast.
Low
temperatures tonight and highs tomorrow will be dependent on where
the front is in the morning. Lows will likely reach the 40s behind
the front and will be in the 60s ahead of it. Highs tomorrow will
likely also be around the morning hours with temperatures likely
falling through the afternoon or holding steady. Precip chances will
lessen a bit for Wednesday night with low temperatures in the upper
30s to lower 40s expected.

&&

.LONG TERM (Thursday through Tuesday)...
Shower and thunderstorm chances will continue to be high Thursday as
the upper trough remains to the west and southerly flow increases at
850 owing to decent warm-air advection. Highs will likely remain in
the 50s under the cloud cover and remnant effects of the cold air.
The surface front will move back north as a warm front Thursday night
with the higher PoPs across the northern counties on the northern
nose of the front. The next frontal system arrives Saturday bringing
continued 30 to 60 PoPs to the region.
Lower rain chances will
continue Sunday through Tuesday mainly across the eastern CWA. High
temperatures in the extended will be in the 60s/70s with lows in the
50s/60s.


I wonder if the Northwest Hill Country could be flirting with some wintry precip? Cold air is steadily flowing downstream nothing stopping it. (Faster south than east) Then depending on what this impulse does. Wind flow or cloud movement is almost in a parallel but opposite direction out there, north at the surface, south just above it.


Yeah. I wonder(?). Jim Spencer had a new temperature forecast around 6pm. It said 42 by 4pm in Austin proper tomorrow. Cold underestimated again. It is still...February.lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8872 Postby Jarodm12 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:18 pm

OKMet83 wrote:Just an FYI for any followers... I know Northern TX might just get a glancing blow tomorrow but I'm afraid we will see a significant ice storm unfold tonight through late Tom across portions of Central/Wrn into SRN Oklahoma... Ice storm Warnings might be needed... I would highly suggest making alternate travel plans until Thu PM...


I agree although the latest nam is burying southern OK and north Texas this is getting concerning
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8873 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:18 pm

The front seems to losing some momentum and back building/training appears to be setting up over Dallas & Collin County.

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8874 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:20 pm

Hey, Denton and Collin County, it was nice to know ya!

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8875 Postby weatherdude1108 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:20 pm

Huge blowup of storms in the valley around MCALLEN and points north, moving northwardish! Not sure what to make of it(?).
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8876 Postby Cerlin » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:21 pm

Landed safely. We landed in a real short window and we landed way quicker than I ever have. But I’m glad to be back in DFW. So, no winter weather unfortunately because I’m back in town. :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8877 Postby bubba hotep » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:21 pm

DFW zoom from WxBell

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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8878 Postby downsouthman1 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:23 pm

weatherdude1108 wrote:Huge blowup of storms in the valley around MCALLEN and points north, moving northwardish! Not sure what to make of it(?).

I'm watching it. Trying to ascertain whether it'll hit San Antonio and Austin or trek east of there.
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8879 Postby Jarodm12 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:24 pm

bubba hotep wrote:DFW zoom from WxBell

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Well let's see what the wrf has to say and the HRRR and icon if they all agree I wouldn't be surprised on some warnings and advisories this is nuts
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Re: Texas Winter 2017-2018

#8880 Postby Cerlin » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:25 pm

bubba hotep wrote:DFW zoom from WxBell

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Holy... :eek:
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