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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3341 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:02 pm

Both the 18z GEFS and 21z SREF throw up zeros for DFW snow totals with the weekend system.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3342 Postby starsfan65 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:07 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Both the 18z GEFS and 21z SREF throw up zeros for DFW snow totals with the weekend system.
zeros?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3343 Postby Quixotic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:10 pm

If there are a lot of newbies around, perhaps a discussion about the 540 line and 850 mb temps is in order.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3344 Postby Cerlin » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:11 pm

Quixotic wrote:If there are a lot of newbies around, perhaps a discussion about the 540 line and 850 mb temps is in order.

That would be beneficial to me. I’m an aspiring meteorologist but I have zero experience and I’m using this forum (and other resources) to gain exposure to meteorology.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3345 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:12 pm

starsfan65 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Both the 18z GEFS and 21z SREF throw up zeros for DFW snow totals with the weekend system.
zeros?


As in, zero inches of snow.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3346 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:17 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Both the 18z GEFS and 21z SREF throw up zeros for DFW snow totals with the weekend system.
zeros?


As in, zero inches of snow.


basically the last almost 4 years in DFW :roll:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3347 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:18 pm

Quixotic wrote:If there are a lot of newbies around, perhaps a discussion about the 540 line and 850 mb temps is in order.


Its funny, before model soundings were widely available the 540 and 850 lines were gospel on wx forums and blogs (circa my DC days).
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3348 Postby Quixotic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:30 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Both the 18z GEFS and 21z SREF throw up zeros for DFW snow totals with the weekend system.


This is a harbinger of things to come. The second and third systems are what I’m watching. These borderline systems mean we are on the front and eventually, we will win the battle.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3349 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:32 pm

Delkus with an update.

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3350 Postby dhweather » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:43 pm

Quixotic wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Both the 18z GEFS and 21z SREF throw up zeros for DFW snow totals with the weekend system.


This is a harbinger of things to come. The second and third systems are what I’m watching. These borderline systems mean we are on the front and eventually, we will win the battle.


I was encouraged about the system next Wednesday, but I'm worried about "glancing blows". :Chit:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3351 Postby dhweather » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:49 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Delkus with an update.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxFF9AtXcAAOCxu.jpg



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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3352 Postby Brent » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:49 pm

dhweather wrote:
Quixotic wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:Both the 18z GEFS and 21z SREF throw up zeros for DFW snow totals with the weekend system.

or
This is a harbinger of things to come. The second and third systems are what I’m watching. These borderline systems mean we are on the front and eventually, we will win the battle.


I was encouraged about the system next Wednesday, but I'm worried about "glancing blows". :Chit:


yeah to me the Wednesday storm has far more potential but its in that stupid range zero has worked in our favor so far

The NAM is ugly for the weekend no snow(and its too warm during the day Saturday anyway to matter) and DFW is only at 30 Sunday morning zzzz
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3353 Postby OKMet83 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:53 pm

For those wanting to throw in the towel let me use a quote from the great ESPN Game Day Lee Corso "Not so fast my friends" We still have plenty of things on our side! Today's 12z Euro is one of them which still shows a Potential Winter Storm be it Snow and or Ice for early next week.. GFS FV3 has been sending ON AND OFF weak signals as well! Just because the runs are all of the place doesn't mean we need to go into all out panic mode! that's what models do I understand it's confusing as heck for the general public and frustrating for us forecasters but trust me the pattern we are getting into is much more favorable for a Winter Storm or two... So let's all calm down and sit back and enjoy the ride!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3354 Postby Haris » Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:53 pm

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Off the topic but I have seen so many TV mets for the sake of oversimplifying things call this upper low the snowmaker for the weekend across the midwest and NE.

If you look at vort, its the seed S of Alaska that undercuts it....

The low is moving N!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3355 Postby gpsnowman » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:02 pm

Haris wrote:[url]https://i.ibb.co/k0ChrrV/Screenshot-at-Jan-16-20-40-57.png [/url]

[url]https://i.ibb.co/1Q4mfdv/Screenshot-at-Jan-16-20-40-22.png [/url]

Off the topic but I have seen so many TV mets for the sake of oversimplifying things call this upper low the snowmaker for the weekend across the midwest and NE.

If you look at vort, its the seed S of Alaska that undercuts it....

The low is moving N!

Steve McCauley mentions this exactly on his recent FB post. A southern portion of the main storm slamming the Pacific Coast is what will bring us our little storm Friday into Saturday. Weird, weather is truly fascinating.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3356 Postby Texas Snow » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:10 pm

OKMet83 wrote:For those wanting to throw in the towel let me use a quote from the great ESPN Game Day Lee Corso "Not so fast my friends" We still have plenty of things on our side! Today's 12z Euro is one of them which still shows a Potential Winter Storm be it Snow and or Ice for early next week.. GFS FV3 has been sending ON AND OFF weak signals as well! Just because the runs are all of the place doesn't mean we need to go into all out panic mode! that's what models do I understand it's confusing as heck for the general public and frustrating for us forecasters but trust me the pattern we are getting into is much more favorable for a Winter Storm or two... So let's all calm down and sit back and enjoy the ride!


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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3357 Postby bubba hotep » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:16 pm

Haris wrote:[url]https://i.ibb.co/k0ChrrV/Screenshot-at-Jan-16-20-40-57.png [/url]

[url]https://i.ibb.co/1Q4mfdv/Screenshot-at-Jan-16-20-40-22.png [/url]

Off the topic but I have seen so many TV mets for the sake of oversimplifying things call this upper low the snowmaker for the weekend across the midwest and NE.

If you look at vort, its the seed S of Alaska that undercuts it....

The low is moving N!


It is occluded and dissipates into the shortwave as it moves on shore, not so much moving north.

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3358 Postby Quixotic » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:25 pm

Cerlin wrote:
Quixotic wrote:If there are a lot of newbies around, perhaps a discussion about the 540 line and 850 mb temps is in order.

That would be beneficial to me. I’m an aspiring meteorologist but I have zero experience and I’m using this forum (and other resources) to gain exposure to meteorology.


Great honesty. You’re golden.

540 line and the 850 0 line are basically demarcations of snow. If the 540 line (upper level) is over or south of your area, Snow is possible. 850 0 line is indicative of wwx. If you have the combo, well, hip hiop hooray. As bubbahotep pointed out though, soundings ( which indicate temps, dewpoints and winds throughout the atmosphere) are a better indicator. If you get used to this basic concept: progress by calculating thicknesses. That’s when you really have a grasp on what will happen. I’ve seen rain at 20F. I’ve seen snow at 50F. Keep that layer in mind and you’ll be good. Smarter people than me can explain it. I’m just bad at jargon. Best of luck to you.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3359 Postby rwfromkansas » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:41 pm

One nice thing about West Texas was that you didn't really need the 540 line for snow. 546 often did it. There's still a lot I don't know. I have the Tim Vasquez forecasting book, but I need to read it when I can really focus. lol
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3360 Postby Lagreeneyes03 » Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:57 pm

Haris wrote:[url]https://i.ibb.co/k0ChrrV/Screenshot-at-Jan-16-20-40-57.png [/url]

[url]https://i.ibb.co/1Q4mfdv/Screenshot-at-Jan-16-20-40-22.png [/url]

Off the topic but I have seen so many TV mets for the sake of oversimplifying things call this upper low the snowmaker for the weekend across the midwest and NE.

If you look at vort, its the seed S of Alaska that undercuts it....

The low is moving N!


Do we want it to move N? I always thought if the L was south of the 'Plex, we got winter weather. If not, "Cold Rain".
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