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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3921 Postby harp » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:04 am

Brent wrote:the end of the Euro looks like the arctic is headed straight for us with a good snow dropping south from Oklahoma

Unfortunately its the day 10 Euro :lol:
Euro is king, right? :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3922 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:04 am

harp wrote:
Brent wrote:the end of the Euro looks like the arctic is headed straight for us with a good snow dropping south from Oklahoma

Unfortunately its the day 10 Euro :lol:
Euro is king, right? :)


yes but the LR Euro has left much to be desired sadly
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3923 Postby Cpv17 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:10 am

Brent wrote:
harp wrote:
Brent wrote:the end of the Euro looks like the arctic is headed straight for us with a good snow dropping south from Oklahoma

Unfortunately its the day 10 Euro :lol:
Euro is king, right? :)


yes but the LR Euro has left much to be desired sadly


Bro, 0z models tonight look absolutely phenomenal..best setup I’ve seen for cold and winter weather over the southern plains all season so far. Oh, and did you see the 1054mb high on the 0z Euro building just north of the NW Territories? :wink: I’m gonna go to sleep a happy excited man after what I’ve seen on the models tonight. The -PNA and -NAO look locked in to deliver us the goods!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3924 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:23 am

Cpv17 wrote:
Brent wrote:
harp wrote:Euro is king, right? :)


yes but the LR Euro has left much to be desired sadly


Bro, 0z models tonight look absolutely phenomenal..best setup I’ve seen for cold and winter weather over the southern plains all season so far. Oh, and did you see the 1054mb high on the 0z Euro building just north of the NW Territories? :wink: I’m gonna go to sleep a happy excited man after what I’ve seen on the models tonight. The -PNA and -NAO look locked in to deliver us the goods!


that's cool and all, but I wanna see some consistency... still worried about the fun going east of us
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3925 Postby Cpv17 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:30 am

Brent wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
Brent wrote:
yes but the LR Euro has left much to be desired sadly


Bro, 0z models tonight look absolutely phenomenal..best setup I’ve seen for cold and winter weather over the southern plains all season so far. Oh, and did you see the 1054mb high on the 0z Euro building just north of the NW Territories? :wink: I’m gonna go to sleep a happy excited man after what I’ve seen on the models tonight. The -PNA and -NAO look locked in to deliver us the goods!


that's cool and all, but I wanna see some consistency... still worried about the fun going east of us


I am too, but the models tonight went towards something I’ve really yet to see so far this winter..so there’s maybe still some hope lol I’m sure someone else will explain better than I can. Hoping to see some consistency now with this.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3926 Postby harp » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:38 am

If the FV3 GFS were to verify, it would cripple the New Orleans metro area.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3927 Postby Cpv17 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:51 am

harp wrote:If the FV3 GFS were to verify, it would cripple the New Orleans metro area.


Yep. Has temps in the teens in your area. Ridiculously cold.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3928 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:33 am

Euro and its ensembles along with GFS ensembles show light snow from Austin to Texarkarkana wth a few Dallas or Houston members. Amounts are generally a dusting to a couple inches. It's a razor thin line between the good QPF and cold temps so bust potential is high in both directions.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3929 Postby weatherdude1108 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:33 am

32 here so far at around 7:30 this morning. Chilliest it has been in a while here.

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3930 Postby Ralph's Weather » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:44 am

23 here this morning. I believe that is the coldest of the season, from a non "Arctic" front haha. We will have to wait until next week for teens most likely.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3931 Postby EtoileTX » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:52 am

24 here just east of Lufkin
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3932 Postby Portastorm » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:02 am

Outside of the urban core of Austin, many areas showing temperatures below freezing ... upper 20s.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3933 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:10 am

Ralph's Weather wrote:23 here this morning. I believe that is the coldest of the season, from a non "Arctic" front haha. We will have to wait until next week for teens most likely.


You could see that the air now over Texas came from the Central Plains. Nothing crossed the Canadian Border with this front. It doesn't take an Arctic front to drop temps into the 20s (or a light freeze in Houston). No new cold air with Wednesday's system, either. Models DO indicate new Canadian air with Friday's front, however (not Arctic, though).
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3934 Postby orangeblood » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:16 am

wxman57 wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:23 here this morning. I believe that is the coldest of the season, from a non "Arctic" front haha. We will have to wait until next week for teens most likely.


You could see that the air now over Texas came from the Central Plains. Nothing crossed the Canadian Border with this front. It doesn't take an Arctic front to drop temps into the 20s (or a light freeze in Houston). No new cold air with Wednesday's system, either. Models DO indicate new Canadian air with Friday's front, however (not Arctic, though).


With all due respect, this was no doubt an Arctic Front, you can track it origins over the past week....here is the snapshot from 3 days ago, this HP came straight down from the Arctic circle into Canada and through the Dakotas down into Texas. It wasn't your typically trajectory through Montana though.

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3935 Postby wxman57 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:52 am

That air (and high pressure) in Canada didn't come down the Plains. It tracked east across southern Canada. On Friday, there was no movement of cold air south of Canada (first image below). By Saturday, you could see the northerly flow developing over KS/NE (second image). In past true Arctic fronts, you would have seen bitterly cold air (-20F to -35F) tracking south across Montana. That wasn't the case with this front. We'll probably see a real Arctic front move down before this winter is over.

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3936 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:55 am

22 here this morning with a really heavy frost.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3937 Postby rwfromkansas » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:10 am

Got down to 24. Pretty nice hard freeze.

As for models, NO OTHER runs this year have verified with a big arctic blast here.

I am assuming it’s wrong and will go east until we see consistency. Once that happens, this place will rightly get excited!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3938 Postby hriverajr » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:22 am

orangeblood wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Ralph's Weather wrote:23 here this morning. I believe that is the coldest of the season, from a non "Arctic" front haha. We will have to wait until next week for teens most likely.


You could see that the air now over Texas came from the Central Plains. Nothing crossed the Canadian Border with this front. It doesn't take an Arctic front to drop temps into the 20s (or a light freeze in Houston). No new cold air with Wednesday's system, either. Models DO indicate new Canadian air with Friday's front, however (not Arctic, though).


With all due respect, this was no doubt an Arctic Front, you can track it origins over the past week....here is the snapshot from 3 days ago, this HP came straight down from the Arctic circle into Canada and through the Dakotas down into Texas. It wasn't your typically trajectory through Montana though.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs-ens/2019011706/gfs-ens_mslpaNorm_namer_1.png


HP may have come from their.. Higher pressures translated south. Does not mean the air really did. I'm not sure, but you would have to do an analysis on the the actual movement of those "air parcels" (brain not working well haha)
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3939 Postby bubba hotep » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:41 am

Interesting, both the 00z GEFS and Euro EPS move the MJO into P6 but the NAM pattern they produce doesn't match up with what you would expect during +ENSO. A bit odd, esp. with +AAM. Maybe the ensembles will correct towards lower heights in the SW as we move forward in time or maybe the +ENSO low frequency state isn't strong enough to fore onto the large scale pattern? Ultimately, the SSW resulting in a lobe of the TPV being anchored over SE Canada might be crushing the pattern and not allowing for a typical +ENSO progression driven by tropical forcing.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#3940 Postby hriverajr » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:42 am

I must say I'm not throwing in the towel yet. Models look a bit better on cold air in extended (yes I know) we shall see.
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