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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4301 Postby Stratton23 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:55 pm

Enjoying this nice pleasant day before the big suck pattern sets in, im not buying the cpcs 6-10 and 8-14 day precipitation outlooks, prepare for a long extended period of dry weather
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4302 Postby Brent » Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:17 pm

A lot of sleet here with temperatures in the 40s weird :spam:

What an interesting way to end what has been a stupid month :lol: and largely stupid winter

Edit it's official Tulsa tied for 3rd warmest February behind 1930 2017 and tied with 1976
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4303 Postby Tireman4 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:03 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:Sleet falling on my car as I wait for my daughter to get out of school. Unbelievable. What a way to end this winter!!

It's sleeting where I am at right now too! :eek:


You can study this weird El Nino in school!
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4304 Postby Iceresistance » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:11 pm

Tireman4 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
gpsnowman wrote:Sleet falling on my car as I wait for my daughter to get out of school. Unbelievable. What a way to end this winter!!

It's sleeting where I am at right now too! :eek:


You can study this weird El Nino in school!


I hope this will be studied for a long time :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4305 Postby Ntxw » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:43 pm

Iceresistance wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:It's sleeting where I am at right now too! :eek:


You can study this weird El Nino in school!


I hope this will be studied for a long time :lol:


This El Nino had a couple of subsets and hindsight is always 20/20. First it was a cold pdo El Nino, however not like the normal cold PDO. The raging warm waters off Japan is what drove -PDO, rather than really cold waters off North America. It had Nina warmth tendencies. At the same time Canada was devoid of cold like typical Super El Ninos, we had the worst of both worlds.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4306 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:11 am

Well, it’s 11:00 p.m. on February 29, 2024. Definitely a disappointment this winter season for a middle aged guy who loves cold and snow. Beyond a January dusting, hardly saw a snowflake this winter and there was no real significant accumulation.

At my age, you wonder how many more times you’ll get to see a real snowstorm. But then again, I’m glad to be alive and able to enjoy whatever weather we get here along the Red River. It’s in the 30’s outside right now and I think I’ll go out on the back deck and enjoy the chill for a few minutes as Leap Day ends. Probably the coldest night we’ll have until next fall or winter.

After a winter that wasn’t, I’ll see everyone in the Spring thread. So long Texas Winter 2023-24, we hardly knew you!

:froze: :froze: :froze:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4307 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:14 am

This winter was a massive bust, such a major disappointment, and this spring is looking very disappointing for the state
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4308 Postby snownado » Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:02 am

Brent wrote:Edit it's official Tulsa tied for 3rd warmest February behind 1930 2017 and tied with 1976


Similar thing for DFW. 2024 is 0.1*F warmer than 1930 (4th) with an average of 57.7*F, but cooler than 2017 (1st) and 1976 (2nd).
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4309 Postby orangeblood » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:06 am

Ntxw wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
Tireman4 wrote:
You can study this weird El Nino in school!


I hope this will be studied for a long time :lol:


This El Nino had a couple of subsets and hindsight is always 20/20. First it was a cold pdo El Nino, however not like the normal cold PDO. The raging warm waters off Japan is what drove -PDO, rather than really cold waters off North America. It had Nina warmth tendencies. At the same time Canada was devoid of cold like typical Super El Ninos, we had the worst of both worlds.


Terrible EPO winter...as we've discussed many times in the past, we live and die with the EPO

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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4310 Postby Stratton23 » Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:22 pm

Of course models and ensembles want to bring back a high latitude blocking pattern in the middle of march, where the heck was that in february? Smh, wont me much since its mid march, but maybe some cooler weather hopefully
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4311 Postby Ntxw » Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:33 pm

orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
Iceresistance wrote:
I hope this will be studied for a long time :lol:


This El Nino had a couple of subsets and hindsight is always 20/20. First it was a cold pdo El Nino, however not like the normal cold PDO. The raging warm waters off Japan is what drove -PDO, rather than really cold waters off North America. It had Nina warmth tendencies. At the same time Canada was devoid of cold like typical Super El Ninos, we had the worst of both worlds.


Terrible EPO winter...as we've discussed many times in the past, we live and die with the EPO

https://www.weatherbell.com/images/imguploader/images/eXOUkbwEWt.png


2023-2024 winter had a very weak Aleutian low. All the other good El Ninos had lower heights across the northern Pacific from Japan to the Aleutians. This one was nearly the opposite.

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Also the lower heights (anomaly) were all generally very weak across the NHEM.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4312 Postby Itryatgolf » Mon Mar 04, 2024 6:58 pm

Ntxw wrote:
orangeblood wrote:
Ntxw wrote:
This El Nino had a couple of subsets and hindsight is always 20/20. First it was a cold pdo El Nino, however not like the normal cold PDO. The raging warm waters off Japan is what drove -PDO, rather than really cold waters off North America. It had Nina warmth tendencies. At the same time Canada was devoid of cold like typical Super El Ninos, we had the worst of both worlds.


Terrible EPO winter...as we've discussed many times in the past, we live and die with the EPO

https://www.weatherbell.com/images/imguploader/images/eXOUkbwEWt.png


2023-2024 winter had a very weak Aleutian low. All the other good El Ninos had lower heights across the northern Pacific from Japan to the Aleutians. This one was nearly the opposite.

https://i.imgur.com/fvuNRtz.png

Also the lower heights (anomaly) were all generally very weak across the NHEM.

From what I understand, ridging north of Hawaii isn't good during winter but troughing is. A -pdo is interesting in an niño, which we had this past winter. Don't happen very often. I'm surprised January was below avg. Guess we got the right timing then. If we get a strong niña and it's central based with another -pdo, maybe be another long winter next year. Typically most niñas are front loaded but may not matter if it is robust
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4313 Postby DukeMu » Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:05 am

Weird winter. Average temps in College Station through January, but a boatful of rain - 9+ inches in January. 12+ for the year.

February was a complete bust. Ironically, we may have a cool Spring Break. This weekend looks nice.

Do we start the Spring thread now? We're in meteorological spring as of 3/1.
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4314 Postby Iceresistance » Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:14 am

DukeMu wrote:Weird winter. Average temps in College Station through January, but a boatful of rain - 9+ inches in January. 12+ for the year.

February was a complete bust. Ironically, we may have a cool Spring Break. This weekend looks nice.

Do we start the Spring thread now? We're in meteorological spring as of 3/1.


https://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopi ... 4&t=123958
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4315 Postby Stratton23 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 6:00 pm

Man the GFS makes me furious, of course midels try to bring back a blocking pattern over alaska and greenland for mid march, where the heck was this pattern in february?? Really unfortunate timing
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4316 Postby Itryatgolf » Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:01 pm

Stratton23 wrote:Man the GFS makes me furious, of course midels try to bring back a blocking pattern over alaska and greenland for mid march, where the heck was this pattern in february?? Really unfortunate timing


Niño was too strong this winter and east based. Lucky to get cold in January. Niño is weakening dramatically and we will see a colder pattern evolve but for most too late in season
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4317 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:30 pm

Just in case there was any doubt… :lol:

 https://x.com/mikebettes/status/1766178166391869870


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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4318 Postby Stratton23 » Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:37 pm

Winter may make one final appearance just after spring break, models agree on a couple of pretty strong fronts ( for march standards) CPC has us highlighted below average weather in 8-14 day outlook, i look forward to some cooler temps, highs in the 50’s and 60’s looks like a solid bet
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4319 Postby Brent » Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:02 pm

Texas Snowman wrote:Just in case there was any doubt… :lol:

 https://x.com/mikebettes/status/1766178166391869870




You don't say :spam:
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Re: Texas Winter 2023-2024

#4320 Postby Stratton23 » Sun Mar 10, 2024 2:09 pm

lol wonky run of the 12z euro
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