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Hot Summer >> Cold Winter Correlation?

#1 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:18 am

Some of the old timers around here have mentioned that the last time we had a particularly hot summer, it was followed by a nasty cold winter, complete with blizzard. This was sometimes in the late 70s.

Coincidence?
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Re: Hot Summer >> Cold Winter Correlation?

#2 Postby Scott Patterson » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:09 am

That has happened several times (the 1930's being the most glaring example, especially 1936 in the Great Plains and Midwest), but there seems to be no real coorelation. There have been many hot summers follows by warm winters as well.
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Re: Hot Summer >> Cold Winter Correlation?

#3 Postby jinftl » Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:26 am

According to the National Climatic Data Center (record-keeping goes back to 1895):

* This past winter — December '11, January '12, and February '12— was the 4th warmest for the lower 48 states
* This past spring - March '12, April '12, May '12 - was the warmest ever in the lower 48 states

So there doesn't appear to be much connection (at least this year) between a warm winter and spring resulting in a cooler than average summer so there may not be too much of a connection between warm summers and cold winters either. Then again, we are really in unchartered area with the temps we have seen so far in 2012 across much of the U.S. in terms of persistent month after month of warmth, and records being broken by a magnitude not often seen during a month, let alone 6 months.

The expected el nino will have more of an impact on the winter than anything. According to NOAA Climate Prediction Center, "AN EL NINO INCREASES THE ODDS OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES FROM THE NORTHERN GREAT PLAINS TO THE GREAT LAKES, AND LESSENS THE CHANCE OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR MUCH OF THE SOUTHERN CONUS."

Current NOAA temperature forecast for the upcoming winter:

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