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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#841 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:50 am

Well, at least for today in my area, it has been a pretty low bust. The high busted way low yesterday and the original forecast low was 44 and it already down to 40.
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#842 Postby Ralph's Weather » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:46 am

Made it down to 38 at my place. When i saw the clear skies and calm winds yesterday evening I had a feeling I'd see the 30s today.
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#843 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:13 am

Euro has DFW pushing mid 80s again next Friday... I wouldn't be surprised to see 90 again the way things have been going.
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#844 Postby Tejas89 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:33 am

I wouldn't be surprised to see 90 again the way things have been going.


Hope not. FWD doesn't have any 80's through the 7-day, and advertises a cold front next weekend.
Before this year, no 90+ days had been recorded in November. We've had 3 so far!
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#845 Postby Brent » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:05 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Euro has DFW pushing mid 80s again next Friday... I wouldn't be surprised to see 90 again the way things have been going.


I swear we better not

Record highs are 87 next Thursday/Friday, one set last year lol
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#846 Postby Ntxw » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:18 pm

GFS does show above normal before frontal passage next weekend. MId 70s to near 80 is above normal for it. Then it's becoming more apparent a significant front will come Thanksgiving week. Still slightly back and forth but the colder solutions have become more numerous. Perhaps highs in the 40s and 50s with lows in the 30s via said trof.

500mb with blocking over Northeastern Canada slows the jet stream and likely more fronts with brief warm ups in between thereafter. In truth, the pattern could look worse and it could be worse but doesn't look that bad. We've actually knocked down November's average quite a bit from where it was
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#847 Postby Ntxw » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:26 pm

All that ridging in the Northeast Pacific has warmed the GOA. We may not win the small battles in the short term, but the longer picture is optimistic. In due time it will pay off. 2013 in November the ridging up there and SST really coupled by late month leading to the false winter storm, and eventually cobblestone ice storm early December

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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#848 Postby Ntxw » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:41 pm

18z GFS flips from the 12z (sorta) instead of ridge out west, big trough comes in the SW in that kind of pattern Thanksgiving week. Just to show the fluid nature of how a pattern change (blocking setting up) can cause some volatile model runs until said pattern settles. If indeed the blocking is true in Northeastern Canada
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#849 Postby Ntxw » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:34 pm

In other news,

Dry and some drought has quietly been spreading. Though this is not all of a surprise given we are moving into what may be a second dip Nina

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Long long range, there are very few wet/cool 2nd year Nina summers. They are hot and dry for the most part. Lets hope we get winter this year before that comes in 2018. We haven't seen a truly hot summer since 2012. 2013-2017 had spells of it but nothing wall to wall.
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#850 Postby TheProfessor » Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:53 pm

Whew, I don't think we got above freezing today and It's 24 degrees now. :cold: I really wish I lived in a lake effect zone though.
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#851 Postby starsfan65 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:25 pm

Ntxw wrote:GFS does show above normal before frontal passage next weekend. MId 70s to near 80 is above normal for it. Then it's becoming more apparent a significant front will come Thanksgiving week. Still slightly back and forth but the colder solutions have become more numerous. Perhaps highs in the 40s and 50s with lows in the 30s via said trof.

500mb with blocking over Northeastern Canada slows the jet stream and likely more fronts with brief warm ups in between thereafter. In truth, the pattern could look worse and it could be worse but doesn't look that bad. We've actually knocked down November's average quite a bit from where it was
WFAA said we are going to be 1-2 degrees above normal on Thanksgiving.
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#852 Postby Brent » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:19 am

starsfan65 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:GFS does show above normal before frontal passage next weekend. MId 70s to near 80 is above normal for it. Then it's becoming more apparent a significant front will come Thanksgiving week. Still slightly back and forth but the colder solutions have become more numerous. Perhaps highs in the 40s and 50s with lows in the 30s via said trof.

500mb with blocking over Northeastern Canada slows the jet stream and likely more fronts with brief warm ups in between thereafter. In truth, the pattern could look worse and it could be worse but doesn't look that bad. We've actually knocked down November's average quite a bit from where it was
WFAA said we are going to be 1-2 degrees above normal on Thanksgiving.


its still fantasy land but the weather apps so far are near normal(around 65/45), the GFS blasts a front through the night before Thanksgiving with near 80 on Wednesday and highs in the 50s on Thanksgiving but again this is fantasy land. There does seem to be signals of some kind of cold front close to Thanksgiving at least.
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#853 Postby aggiecutter » Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:26 am

TheProfessor wrote:Whew, I don't think we got above freezing today and It's 24 degrees now. :cold: I really wish I lived in a lake effect zone though.


Portastorm is well acquainted with the lake effect zone. In some winters, SW Austin gets up to 3-4 mm of freezing drizzle when there is a NW flow off of Lake Travis.
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#854 Postby bubba hotep » Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:30 pm

lol... Massive Euro flip for Thanksgiving week. 00z had a big trough sagging into the Rockies looking to setup a cold shot. 12z has a firehouse off the Pacific flooding the west with warm air.
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#855 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:22 pm

bubba hotep wrote:lol... Massive Euro flip for Thanksgiving week. 00z had a big trough sagging into the Rockies looking to setup a cold shot. 12z has a firehouse off the Pacific flooding the west with warm air.
What does that mean?
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#856 Postby Brent » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:14 pm

starsfan65 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:lol... Massive Euro flip for Thanksgiving week. 00z had a big trough sagging into the Rockies looking to setup a cold shot. 12z has a firehouse off the Pacific flooding the west with warm air.
What does that mean?


Wont be cold if that verifies seasonal at best and could be warm

Maybe we'll get a freeze by Christmas lol
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#857 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:31 pm

Brent wrote:
starsfan65 wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:lol... Massive Euro flip for Thanksgiving week. 00z had a big trough sagging into the Rockies looking to setup a cold shot. 12z has a firehouse off the Pacific flooding the west with warm air.
What does that mean?


Wont be cold if that verifies seasonal at best and could be warm

Maybe we'll get a freeze by Christmas lol
Don't give up hope!! Wait until the GFS comes out.
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#858 Postby Portastorm » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:12 pm

aggiecutter wrote:
TheProfessor wrote:Whew, I don't think we got above freezing today and It's 24 degrees now. :cold: I really wish I lived in a lake effect zone though.


Portastorm is well acquainted with the lake effect zone. In some winters, SW Austin gets up to 3-4 mm of freezing drizzle when there is a NW flow off of Lake Travis.


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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#859 Postby Brent » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:44 pm

The gfs entire run is pretty much a torch no cold air at all
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Re: Texas Fall 2017

#860 Postby starsfan65 » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:50 pm

Brent wrote:The gfs entire run is pretty much a torch no cold air at all

A torch?
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