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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#341 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:35 pm

starsfan65 wrote:
Brent wrote:Big thunderstorm complex moving in and some schools moved football to tonight to avoid storms :lol:

Seriously though if this is an indicator of tomorrow and Saturday better find a boat
Big thunderstorm complex?


Yeah look at downtown Dallas. Is moving quickly though
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#342 Postby Ntxw » Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:56 pm

FW pulled the trigger for the flash flood watches northwestern half of the CWA. Rightfully so with potential for training given the stationary front and deep rich tropical moisture plume from the EPAC. Maybe a 10"+ total somewhere around the metroplex and northward

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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#343 Postby Cerlin » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:04 pm

Huge storm hitting The Colony, very quick wind gusts that almost pick you off your feet. Really cool clouds and lots of lightening.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#344 Postby Ntxw » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:13 pm

In addition, guidance rolls the -EPO into early October sending another (perhaps shallow) cold air (relative) mass down the North American continent. Going to be an exciting 2-3 week period for Fall weather lovers.

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The East Pacific is going to light up during this time frame.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#345 Postby TheProfessor » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Been near 90 the past couple of days. It's not as bad as when all the AC units on campus went out a couple of weeks ago, but it's not the best weather for enjoying outside. Temps will finally take a bit of a dive for me though, it's gonna be a comfortable 70 degrees for me on Saturday. Looks like I'll only get a week more of shorts weather in the near future as the GFS is showing sweatshirt weather next weekend. I would like to have just a few weeks of mid-60s low 70s though to make up for the lack up Spring I had earlier this year lol.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#346 Postby Haris » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:26 pm

new weeklies remain awesome!!
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#347 Postby Brent » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:09 pm

0z HRRR had amounts in the 8-12" range in spots around DFW just through Saturday morning :double: and its not even close to over yet

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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#348 Postby Ntxw » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:51 pm

The key for the heaviest region of QPF will be with the surface low and front stalls. Somewhere in North Texas/Southern Oklahoma this will happen and I am betting it is S of the Red River vs North. Training along this boundary will dump a lot of rain on some folks.

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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#349 Postby Haris » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:17 pm

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hrrr shows 23" in the hill country tonight . :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#350 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:53 am

Haris wrote:[url]https://preview.ibb.co/co7ZGe/hrrr_t_precip_austin_19.png [/url]


hrrr shows 23" in the hill country tonight . :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


And now it shows nothing just a few hours later in the same spot
:lol: the models have been a joke lately

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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#351 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:37 am

27" of rain just east of Wichita Falls on the 0z Euro

23" just west of Denton :eek:

DFW airport would have wettest September on record with this run

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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#352 Postby Ntxw » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:10 am

Pwats are through the roof for any time of year no less in late September. Extremely efficient rainmakers and high rain rates.

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What should happen is spokes of very heavy rain will move in, and linger the longest the region between I-20 and the Red River. Rain will wrap back around the surface low towards the latter half of the event and continue to rain even into early Sunday. That's where the highest totals may sit.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#353 Postby rwfromkansas » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:49 am

Some of those numbers are mind-boggling. Glad I got my weather station back up last night. The outdoor sensor stopped working for some reason, but a reset worked. It would be insane if that HRRR verifies, though I am sure it won't. I would have received a foot of rain. It appears at least 4 inches is a pretty solid bet though, which by itself is remarkable.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#354 Postby funster » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:17 am

Wow. It looks there will be some impressive rain totals with this event.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#355 Postby Ntxw » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:21 am

WPC disco earlier this morning

Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0872
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
737 AM EDT Fri Sep 21 2018

Areas affected...Northern TX into southern OK

Concerning...Heavy rainfall...Flash flooding likely

Valid 211136Z - 211736Z

Summary...Flash Flooding will become increasingly likely through
the morning hours from north central Texas into central Oklahoma.
For at least the southeastern half of the MPD area the flash flood
threat continues, and actually likely becomes more significant,
after the expiration of this MPD at 17z. This event as a whole
still appears to be evolving into a potentially significant and
locally life-threatening flash flood event as we head through the
day Friday.

Discussion...The environmental setup will become increasingly
favorable for heavy rainfall as we go through today. In the upper
levels, flow is impressively diffluent south of the upper jet to
the north. In the mid levels, have one or more embedded shortwave
features likely helping enhance lift. The lower levels feature a
cold front dropping south across KS/OK, with an area of low
pressure over west TX becoming better defined with time. Pretty
good southerly flow and 850mb moisture transport exists to the
east of this low. Anticipate the southward dropping cold front to
significantly slow its progression as it drops into southern OK
and interacts with the stronger southerly flow. Thus low level
convergence will become quite impressive with time today. The
combination of this impressive lower level convergence and upper
level diffluence is very supportive of broad deep layer ascent
over the area.

PWs will end up around 2.25"...which is near record values for
this time of year. Note a strong and deep moisture connection to
the Pacific...and the remnants of T.D. 19. Also have a moisture
plume advecting north out of the western Gulf. The merging of
these two moisture streams is responsible for the near record PW
values. Instability is probably the most marginal ingredient of
this setup...with MUCAPE generally below 1000 J/KG. However 3 hour
CAPE trends do show increasing values over the MPD area. Thus
while the marginal instability may prevent very deep and intense
cells from forming...there is likely enough CAPE, given the
efficient warm rain processes in play, to produce excessive
rainfall amounts.

Convection is beginning to expand from central TX into OK this
morning...and should only become more organized and intense as the
morning progresses. The MPD area aligns pretty well with the 06z
HREF neighborhood probabilities of 3"+ through 18z, and with the
QPF axis depicted in recent HRRR runs. Out of all available
guidance, would say that recent HRRR runs offer as good as any
starting point for convective expectations through the morning
into early afternoon hours. Although would not be surprised if the
flash flood threat ends up beginning a bit sooner than the HRRR
would suggest. Would anticipate pockets of 3-5" through 17z across
the MPD area, with these totals becoming more widespread and
higher beyond 17z.

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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#356 Postby dhweather » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:47 am

Hot off the press -12Z GFS 48 hours rainfall totals.

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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#357 Postby Ntxw » Fri Sep 21, 2018 11:05 am

Radar estimates around the San Angelo area shows where it has rained they have easily picked up 2-5" of rain. This disturbance as it moves east will hit higher pwats and likely slow down due to the surface low. Lots of mesoscale features to watch tonight.

funster wrote:Wow. It looks there will be some impressive rain totals with this event.


The forecast kind of blew up out of nowhere because of former TD19 in the East Pacific over baja, forming quickly and unexpectedly. Originally the thinking was chances for rain over the weekend but not amount to much. How that changed in a matter of days.
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#358 Postby Haris » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:38 pm

Thread is awful lot quiet today considering a major flash flood event is impending . Biggest event in Dallas in a long Time
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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#359 Postby Ntxw » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:38 pm

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Mesoscale Precipitation Discussion 0873
NWS Weather Prediction Center College Park MD
153 PM EDT Fri Sep 21 2018

Areas affected...Central/Northern TX...Central/Southern OK

Concerning...Heavy rainfall...Flash flooding likely

Valid 211753Z - 212353Z

Summary...Dangerous flash flooding will become likely as a result
of very heavy showers and thunderstorms persisting through the
afternoon hours, with rainfall rates of as much as 3 inches/hr.

Discussion...The latest GOES-16 satellite imagery shows a
well-defined mid-level closed low center across west TX which is
advancing very slowly off to the east. This energy is interacting
with an extremely moist and at least moderately unstable airmass
pooled up across the southern Plains and particularly up against a
rather strong baroclinic zone. In fact, the latest surface
analysis depicts a cold front dropping slowly south down toward
the lower MS Valley but extending back to just north of the Red
River over southern OK and then southwest down into west TX where
there is a well-defined area of low pressure.

PWATs out ahead of the low center are highly tropical in nature
with values of 2.0 to 2.25 inches as per the latest Blended-TPW
product and also GPS-derived data sets. Meanwhile, a rather strong
instability gradient is in place along the front, with MUCAPE
values as high as 2000 j/kg pooled up near the Red River. The
combination of both will lead to extremely heavy rainfall rates
that will be as much as 3 inches/hr within the stronger convective
cores.

On the larger scale, there is excellent large scale forcing, with
right-entrance region jet dynamics in place, robust isentropic
ascent along and north of the front, and persistent deep layer
southerly flow which is maintaining the transport of very
favorable thermodynamics.

Given these ingredients, all signs continue to point to a longer
duration and high impact flash flood event across especially areas
of southern OK and northern TX. Already as much as 9 inches of
rain has been reported over Pontotoc county, OK in the vicinity of
Fittstown.

Over the next several hours, there will be a tendency for more
convection to begin focusing just south of the Red River over
northern TX, but expect very heavy rains to continue over southern
OK where dangerous flash flooding is already occurring. The latest
12Z HREF model consensus and recent HRRR guidance favors as much
as an additional 4 to 6+ inches of rain through late afternoon.

Expect life-threatening and dangerous flash flooding to occur this
afternoon across southern OK. Areas of northern TX will also
become increasingly susceptible and should be closely monitored
for excessive rainfall as well going through the mid to late
afternoon hours.

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Re: Texas Fall 2018

#360 Postby weatherdude1108 » Fri Sep 21, 2018 1:40 pm

Raining nicely here at the office in north Austin!
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