The 6-10 and 8-14 day CPC Temperature Outlooks raise even more eyes as they both show cooler than average temperatures for Florida (including South Florida) with the 8-14 day Temperature Outlook bringing the core of the coldest air up along the middle of the U.S. East Coast.
Also, today’s hot off the press December Temperature Outlook has below average temperatures all along the Eastern third of the U.S. East Coast including all of Florida! So maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:23 am
by chaser1
O ye of little faith
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:36 am
by StormingB81
Maybe just maybe we can have a "chilly" Christmas and it not be 85 lol
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:35 am
by TheStormExpert
NAO now forecasted to go positive FWIW.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:31 pm
by gatorcane
The ECMWF looks to bring the 850MB 0C line down through Central Florida in about a week from now.
Yikes!
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:18 pm
by psyclone
As the time frame reels in the signal gets stronger. It's coming. And it will be more than a transient 2 or 3 day shot.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:27 pm
by TheStormExpert
18z GFS floods the whole state with back to back reinforcing shots of cold air starting late next week/weekend through it’s long-range.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:44 pm
by boca
I love the cold weather and the welcome change and interesting enough the GFS fantasyland forecast at 336 hours has the rain/snow line thru Jacksonville FL. I'm still very skeptical on cold weather especially here in South Florida where the planets have to line up just right and have a neg NAO and pos AO for this to occur.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:09 pm
by TheStormExpert
gatorcane wrote:The ECMWF looks to bring the 850MB 0C line down through Central Florida in about a week from now.
Yikes!
Here’s a closer look at todays 12z Euro for Florida.
boca wrote:I love the cold weather and the welcome change and interesting enough the GFS fantasyland forecast at 336 hours has the rain/snow line thru Jacksonville FL. I'm still very skeptical on cold weather especially here in South Florida where the planets have to line up just right and have a neg NAO and pos AO for this to occur.
I always though a -AO was needed along with the -AO/+PNA?
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:14 pm
by NDG
I don't see anything unusual for this time of the year, usual 30s for for the Nature Coast and northern FL, 40s for central FL and 50s for south FL, is my forecast by looking at how the Euro has been backing away keeping it in its 7-10 day range as well as the GFS. There's a lack of snow cover across the northern US.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:17 pm
by NDG
TheStormExpert wrote:
boca wrote:I love the cold weather and the welcome change and interesting enough the GFS fantasyland forecast at 336 hours has the rain/snow line thru Jacksonville FL. I'm still very skeptical on cold weather especially here in South Florida where the planets have to line up just right and have a neg NAO and pos AO for this to occur.
I always though a -AO was needed along with the -AO/+PNA?
-AO doesn't do much to us, a big -NAO & +PNA is more effective to bring a really cold pattern to FL. The big -AO we saw in the third week of November didn't do crap to our warm pattern.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:19 pm
by psyclone
NDG wrote:I don't see anything unusual for this time of the year, usual 30s for for the Nature Coast and northern FL, 40s for central FL and 50s for south FL, is my forecast by looking at how the Euro has been backing away keeping it in its 7-10 day range as well as the GFS. There's a lack of snow cover across the northern US.
that seems a good bet but it's still a big change. we go from 10 degrees above normal to 5 to 10 below normal. I hope it doesn't go cooler than that...this is plenty..
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:22 pm
by gatorcane
Also notice the 12Z and 18Z temps on the 18Z GFS runs Friday. That is quite raw for during the middle of day and evening hours for Central and north peninsula Florida (due to cloud cover). Those temps are well below normal:
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:34 pm
by TheStormExpert
NDG wrote:I don't see anything unusual for this time of the year, usual 30s for for the Nature Coast and northern FL, 40s for central FL and 50s for south FL, is my forecast by looking at how the Euro has been backing away keeping it in its 7-10 day range as well as the GFS. There's a lack of snow cover across the northern US.
Nothing unusual is right. The NAO looks to be getting ready to go positive again if anything. Shouldn’t expect anything colder than what we saw here back just before Halloween which was low 50’s.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:58 pm
by boca
I expect lows in the 60s and highs near 80 because I expect the models to totally back off on cold or even cooler weather in the next few days. I'm ready to move to a colder climate.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:37 pm
by TheStormExpert
boca wrote:I expect lows in the 60s and highs near 80 because I expect the models to totally back off on cold or even cooler weather in the next few days. I'm ready to move to a colder climate.
I don’t know about that. But I’m with you on moving to a colder climate maybe such as North Carolina in the mountains. As a kid I sort of remember it seeming to be a bit cooler or colder here in South Florida during the holiday season. Clearly the globe is warming as those type of holiday seasons have become few and in between over the past decade or so.
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:32 pm
by SFLcane
Joke...
Maybe mid-uppers 50’s if we’re lucky across SFL Iam not buying any significant cool down
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:43 am
by gatorcane
The GFS and ECMWF have trended colder overnight for this event with the Euro back to the 850mb 0C line into Central Florida and the GFS with 30s into Central Florida. This cold front looks for real and looks to usher in a BIG change for Floridians:
Re: Florida Weather
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:02 am
by TheStormExpert
00z GFS was likely the coldest run yet for next Sunday morning with the 32°F line seeping almost into South Florida! The 06z GFS then backed off some as gatorcane posted but still is rather chilly for Floridians. Still would like to wait a few more days before saying this could be our first legit cold snap of the season.