WHAT A BORING SEASON!!! (An interesting batch of stats)

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WHAT A BORING SEASON!!! (An interesting batch of stats)

#1 Postby senorpepr » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:09 pm

Okay, I dedicate this post to all the folks crying over such a boring season we have in our hands.

Let us go over the facts so far this season. We currently stand at nine named storms and we’re practically at the end of the 19th meteorological day of August.

Over the past decade, we’ve averaged 3.9 named storms up to this point. We’re at 230.8% of that number so far. Even if you discount 1997, we’re at 3.8 named storms – 238.2% would be 2005.

If we apply this decade average to this year, so far, we’re still hitting the ball toward the fence. 10.1 would be the average of named storms from this point forward. (10.9 if you discount 1997). So, let us add that 11 to this year so far: 20. That would place us in second place, just one named storm behind the 1933 uber-season. That would be far from a “boring season.”

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A= Storms prior to Aug 20
B= Storms Aug 20 and after
C= 2005 YTD + year's storms Aug 20 and after

      A   B   C
1995  07  12  21
1996  04  09  18
1997  05  03  12
1998  01  13  22
1999  02  10  19
2000  03  12  21
2001  04  12  21
2002  03  09  18
2003  05  11  20
2004  05  10  19


Okay, I understand some of you are crying because of this “slow” August we’re in. How about we investigate that?!

Over the past decade, we typically see four named storms throughout the month. We are currently at two, but let us break down the month further.

Since 1995, we’ve seen 40 named storms develop in August.

Of those 40 storms, nine (22.5%) formed between the 1st and the 10th. The average for this timeframe is 0.9 named storms. We have had 2 in that timeframe – just over twice the average. (Wait. We had an above-normal average for the first third of August?!)

Of those 40 storms, 11 (27.5%) formed between the 11th and the 20th. The average for this time frame is 1.1 named storms. We have had zero in that timeframe. Okay, the laws of averages just balanced things out. We should be at two named storms at this point and, by golly, we have just that. We’re on par. This is an average August, so far.

Of those 40 storms, 20 (50%) formed between the 21st and the 31st. The average for this time from is two named storms.

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August storms (total; date each formed)

1995  07; 08, 10, 22, 22, 23, 28, 29
1996  04; 19, 22, 27, 28
1997  00; nil
1998  04; 20, 21, 24, 31
1999  04; 19, 20, 24, 24
2000  04; 04, 14, 18, 20
2001  03; 02, 17, 22
2002  03; 05, 06, 29
2003  03; 14, 28, 30
2004  08; 01, 09, 10, 14, 14, 25, 28, 29
2005  02; 03, 07, ...


My point is, even with that “horrid” SAL, we’re still at normal for August. The meat and potatoes of the season doesn’t kick off until this upcoming week.

Even with the SAL sad story, I would love to introduce you to this awesome function here on Storm2k: the search button. Search the term “SAL” during June and July of 2004. You would not believe how many people were throwing in the towel before the first single storm formed. The key is patterns always change. The atmosphere, being in a fluid-like state, is almost moving. This SAL pattern will change just like the pattern changed from July to August.

The bottom line here is simmer down. We are far from below normal. Even if you discount everything that has happened in June and July, we’re still normal. However, if you still find yourself bored, I have a wonderful suggestion. Instead of sitting here on Storm2k posting one-liners about your boredom, use this tool (the internet) to learn something. Go to The Meteorology Education and Training website sponsored by the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research. Instead of blowing your energy on silly emoticons displaying your hatred over such an “average” August, funnel it toward learning a thing or two about meteorology. Their programs are free and they cover such a wide spectrum of topics. Also, you would be amazed at how many professional meteorologists, including those at the National Weather Service, use this very webpage for refresher training.
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#2 Postby x-y-no » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:14 pm

Yeah ... I can imagine the wailing, pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth that will happen around here the next time we have a strong el-Nino season.

:roll:
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#3 Postby Brent » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:17 pm

x-y-no wrote:Yeah ... I can imagine the wailing, pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth that will happen around here the next time we have a strong el-Nino season.

:roll:


:roflmao:

I think the reason everyone's getting impatient was July was so active and August has been rather boring, for lack of a better word. It's supposed to be the other way around.
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#4 Postby southerngale » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:22 pm

Great post, senor. Bravo! Image
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#5 Postby senorpepr » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:35 pm

Brent wrote:I think the reason everyone's getting impatient was July was so active and August has been rather boring, for lack of a better word. It's supposed to be the other way around.


That is fine, but does it warrent a dozen posts a day reminding us all of the amount of activity this month compared to July? As I said in my last paragraph, maybe those who spend their time posting these countless "I'm so bored. :roll: " posts should focus their energy at learning. As Sir Francis Bacon once said, "knowledge is power."
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#6 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:38 pm

Thank you senor! Now if we can only get the people doing such things to LISTEN to us, maybe it won't be so bad! ;)
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#7 Postby x-y-no » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:38 pm

Wow .. that MetEd site is terrific. I just picked a module at random (MCS) and ran through the intro and one section. Really nice presentation.

I'm going to be spending some time reviewing some topics there myself.

Thanks for the link!
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#8 Postby Andrew92 » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:40 pm

I fully agree with your post Senorpepr. In fact, I agree so much that I'd like to make an addendum.

For those who think August is boring, let's dissect the last ten years for this very date.

August 19.....

1995: Hurricane Felix was slowly dying off the EC. Nothing else brewing.

1996: TS Dolly was first named, and the wave that would spawn Edouard came off the coast of Africa. OK, that day was more active.

1997: Nada (but a quiet year)

1998: Only the SECOND tropical depression developed on this day. It was not yet named Bonnie until the 20th. Little else is out there.

1999: TS Bret is named, and the depression that would become Cindy also forms. OK, again like 1996, active.

2000: Chris dissipates, leaving only Alberto far out at sea (longest August storm on record)....though we were only a couple of days away from Debby admittedly.

2001: Chantal is chugging along south of Jamaica. Little else.

2002: Nada

2003: Only strong wave is still a couple of days from a TD, and it would be the pathetic TD #9 near Hispaniola. Still a week away from Fabian.

2004: Danielle is a dying TS, and Frances, which is the next name down since Earl has come and gone, is still a week away.


The last decade speaks for itself. We are simply not in the most active time of the season yet, unless this season is a carbon copy of either 1996 or 1999, which it is not. While sure I would like something to track, we all just have to be patient together.

Again, great post Senorpepr!

-Andrew92
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#9 Postby senorpepr » Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:58 pm

x-y-no wrote:Wow .. that MetEd site is terrific. I just picked a module at random (MCS) and ran through the intro and one section. Really nice presentation.

I'm going to be spending some time reviewing some topics there myself.

Thanks for the link!


No problem at all. We actually spend time going through some of the modules as refreshers here and as I mentioned before, many pro-met venues use this site as a refresher tool.

The thing I like about it is that experienced professional, many holding Ph.Ds, are teaching these modules. If you attended a seminar where these same individuals taught the same information at a college campus, you're looking at a sizable amount of cash for admission. This site, however, is absolutely free.

In addition, many of the modules offer a voice presentation instead of just a webpage where the user has to scroll through.

It's a wonderful tool, in my opinion. Hopefully many more will jump on and explore it.
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#10 Postby NCHurricane » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:18 pm

Excellent post and great link. I'm going to dive into this site for a while. :D
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#11 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:50 pm

Excellent post Mike.
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#12 Postby swimaster20 » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:53 pm

Great post Senor!!!! All the hype about this season is a bust was really getting on my nerves too!
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#13 Postby hurricanefreak1988 » Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:58 pm

I think a sticky is in order. This thread needs to be noticed for a while. Senorpepr has tried to explain this to you guys in previous threads, but apparently you all weren't listening, so he had to make his own. Maybe now, all you people that are saying that the season is done for will knock it off.
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#14 Postby Ixolib » Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:50 pm

Excellent research presented in a no-holds-bared manner. Wonderful post that brings an awareness that's very easy to understand!! Thanks SP!!
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#15 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 19, 2005 9:59 pm

I do think it will get going in September. Record Season?? NO, but I think we will still have a normal season from here on out...


Again, these postings are just the result of our expectations being set to high from the NHC. I have seen slow years slow than this and we kept waiting and kept waiting, but I don't think it will be quite that bad this year. I'm sure we will see our fair share of storms in September and October.
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#16 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:42 pm

Very good post!!!!
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#17 Postby rainydaze » Fri Aug 19, 2005 10:52 pm

Wow....it's so boring that you have time to make a long statisical post on how not boring it is...the irony...


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#18 Postby Thunder44 » Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:28 am

Brent wrote:
x-y-no wrote:Yeah ... I can imagine the wailing, pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth that will happen around here the next time we have a strong el-Nino season.

:roll:


:roflmao:

I think the reason everyone's getting impatient was July was so active and August has been rather boring, for lack of a better word. It's supposed to be the other way around.


Well after having a record active start to the season, I see little to complain about. As Mike said, we are so far on average for August. The problem is that Harvey and Irene recurved before hitting the US and it makes it seems some boring to some people. It's only exciting when the storms are hitting the US mainland.
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#19 Postby nequad » Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:39 am

What are these folks going to do in 15 years when the Atlantic returns to the 25 year "dead" cycle? Going to be a lot of boredom around here.
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#20 Postby Frank2 » Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:10 am

While some here might comment because they are frustrated at the lack of activity over the past month, some here mention this lack of activity only to try to explain to others why it has slowed - there's a difference.

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