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Re: ENSO Updates

#1581 Postby cycloneye » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:28 am

Climate Prediction Center 12/6/10 Weekly Update

No changes as La Nina continues between Moderate and Strong.

Last Week Update

Niño 4= -1.4ºC
Niño 3.4= -1.6ºC
Niño 3= -1.7ºC
Niño1+2= -1.4ºC

This Week Update

Niño 4= -1.3ºC
Niño= 3.4 -1.5ºC
Niño 3= -1.7ºC
Niño1+2= -1.7ºC


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Re: ENSO Updates

#1582 Postby cycloneye » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:21 pm

Climate Prediction Center December Update

No change from the November update that continues to call La Nina to stay thru the Spring.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... odisc.html

Synopsis: La Niña is expected to last at least into the Northern Hemisphere spring 2011.

During November 2010, the ongoing La Niña was reflected by below-average sea surface temperatures (SSTs) across the equatorial Pacific Ocean (Fig. 1). For the second straight month, only small changes were evident in the Niño SST indices, which ranged from –1.3oC to –1.7oC at the end of the month (Fig. 2). The subsurface oceanic heat content (average temperatures in the upper 300m of the ocean, Fig. 3) also remained well below-average in association with a shallower-than-average thermocline across the central and eastern equatorial Pacific (Fig. 4). Convection remained enhanced over Indonesia and suppressed over the western and central equatorial Pacific (Fig. 5). Enhanced low-level easterly trade winds and anomalous upper-level westerly winds continued over the equatorial Pacific. Collectively, these oceanic and atmospheric anomalies reflect a moderate-to-strong La Niña.

Consistent with nearly all ENSO forecast models (Fig. 6), La Niña is expected to peak during November-January and to continue into the Northern Hemisphere spring 2011. Thereafter, the fate of La Niña is more uncertain. The majority of forecast models and all of the multi-model combinations (thicker lines) indicate a return to ENSO-neutral conditions during the Northern Hemisphere spring and early summer. However, a smaller number of models, including the NCEP Climate Forecast System, suggest that La Niña could persist into the summer. Historically, there are more multi-year La Niña episodes than El Niño episodes, but other than support from a few model runs, there is no consensus for a multi-year La Niña at this time. Consequently, La Niña is anticipated to continue into the Northern Hemisphere spring, with no particular outcome favored thereafter.

Likely La Niña impacts during December 2010-February 2011 include suppressed convection over the central tropical Pacific Ocean, and enhanced convection over Indonesia. Impacts in the United States include an enhanced chance of above-average precipitation in the Pacific Northwest, Northern Rockies (along with a concomitant increase in snowfall), Great Lakes, and Ohio Valley. Below-average precipitation is most likely across the southern states, extending into the Mid-Atlantic region. An increased chance of below-average temperatures is predicted for the northernmost western and central states, and a higher possibility of above-average temperatures is forecast for much of the southern and central U.S. (see 3-month seasonal outlook released on November 18th, 2010).

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1583 Postby cycloneye » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:34 am

All ENSO Models December update

No big changes from the November update as the vast majority of the models dont see El Nino appearing when June 1rst arrives.Read the text summary below the graphic, as there are interesting things that for sure we will have to follow in the comming months.

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http://iri.columbia.edu/climate/ENSO/cu ... pdate.html

Current Conditions
As of mid-December 2010, SSTs continue to indicate moderate to strong La Niña conditions in the central and eastern equatorial Pacific. For November the SST anomaly in the NINO3.4 region was -1.45 C, indicative of moderate to strong La Niña conditions, and for the September-November season the anomaly was -1.53 C. Currently the IRI's definition of El Niño conditions rests on an index of SST anomalies, averaged over the NINO3.4 region (5S-5N; 170W-120W), exceeding the warmest 25%-ile of the historical distribution, and similarly for La Niña relative to the 25%-ile coldest conditions in the historical distribution. The NINO3.4 anomaly necessary to qualify as La Niña or El Niño conditions for the Dec-Jan-Feb and the Jan-Feb-Mar seasons are approximately (-0.65C, 0.65) and (-0.55, 0.50), respectively.


Expected Conditions
The most recent weekly SST anomaly in the NINO3.4 region is -1.5 C indicating moderate to strong La Niña conditions in the tropical Pacific; this is approximately the same as the -1.45 C level observed in November. What is the outlook for the ENSO status going forward? December is a time of the year during which the observed ENSO state usually indicates the ENSO conditions to be expected into the first one to three months of the following year, and, if there is an ENSO event in progress (as is currently the case) that event is typically peaking in strength and perhaps even starting to decrease slightly. One might ask whether the current La Niña condition is therefore guaranteed to persist over the coming several months, and whether it would be expected to begin weakening in the coming one or two months. A clue to the answers lies in the moderate strength and extent of negative subsurface sea temperature anomalies at depth in the central and eastern Pacific, whose upper portion has encompassed the surface waters since approximately mid-June. The subsurface negative heat content anomaly has slightly decreased from one to two months ago, but is still substantial. Sea temperature anomalies below the surface often portend SST anomalies to be expected in the following few months, as they are subject to the climatological upwelling in the eastern part of the basin. Current low-level wind anomalies indicate much enhanced trades, especially in the western and west-central portion of the tropical Pacific, and very strongly positive traditional and equatorial SOI indices. These atmospheric features imply above-average upwelling activity in the eastern tropical Pacific, at least for the near term, and suggest that the negative subsurface sea temperature anomalies will likely continue to find their way to the surface during the coming few months. The continued surfacing of below-average subsurface waters implies a likelihood for continuation of the strength of the currently moderate to strong La Niña conditions, although additional cooling appears unlikely at this point as we are near or even just past the usual time of peak strength. In view of the steady strength of the negative anomalies of the east-central tropical Pacific SSTs, we may have already seen the peak strength in October, but there could just as likely be a continuation of the currently moderate to strong SST anomaly level as there could be a slow decrease in their strength during the coming month. Above-average subsurface waters exist in the western tropical Pacific, and although they have been edging eastward during the last few months they do not appear poised to displace the large volume of below-average water to their east for at least a two or more months.

Presently, the models and observations taken together indicate probabilities of approximately 98% for maintaining La Niña conditions, near 2% for returning to ENSO-neutral conditions, and nearly 0% for developing El Niño conditions during the Dec-Feb 2010/11 season in progress. Going forward, probabilities for La Niña continue at 94% or greater through Jan-Mar 2011. In northern spring 2011 the probabilities for La Niña begin to weaken at a faster rate, declining to about 64% by Mar-May and to 43% for Apr-Jun.


The above assessment was made in part on the basis of an examination of the current predictions of ENSO prediction models as well as the observed conditions. For purposes of this discussion, El Niño SST conditions are defined as SSTs in the NINO3.4 region being in the warmest 25% of their climatological distribution for the 3-month period in question over the 1950-present timeframe. The corresponding cutoff in terms of degrees C of SST anomaly varies seasonally, being close to 0.40 degrees C in boreal late-spring to early-summer season and as high as 0.75 degrees C in late boreal autumn. La Niña conditions are defined as NINO3.4 region SSTs being in the coolest 25% of the climatological distribution. Neutral conditions occupy the remaining 50% of the distribution. These definitions were developed such that the most commonly accepted El Niño and La Niña episodes are reproduced.

The models show unanimous agreement regarding the continuation of La Niña conditions into the earliest months of 2011, but vary somewhat in their predictions of the rate of decreasing strength starting from Feb-Apr season. Most statistical and dynamical models call for at least moderate La Niña strength (stronger than -1C) through the Jan-Mar season, and all models except for one (of 22) indicate a waning of strength during Jan-Mar relative to the initial Dec-Feb season. For the Dec-Feb, Jan-Mar and Feb-Apr seasons, 100% of the models are predicting La Niña conditions, while none predicts ENSO-neutral conditions. From Mar-May onward, some models begin indicating a return to neutral ENSO conditions, but not to the point of being a majority until late northern spring and early summer. By Jun-Aug, a few models call for weak to moderate El Niño conditions. At lead times of 4 or more months into the future, statistical and dynamical models that incorporate information about the ocean's observed subsurface thermal structure generally exhibit higher predictive skill than those that do not. Among models that do use subsurface temperature information, 3 of 12 (25%) predict ENSO-neutral SSTs for the May-Jul seasons, 7 of 12 (58%) predict La Niña conditions, and 2 of 12 (17%) predict El Niño conditions. (Note 1). (Note that La Niña conditions for May-Jul require a NINO3.4 SST anomaly of -0.50 or stronger, and El Niño conditions require 0.45 or stronger.) Caution is advised in interpreting the distribution of model predictions as the actual probabilities. At longer leads, the skill of the models degrades, and skill uncertainty must be convolved with the uncertainties from initial conditions and differing model physics, leading to more climatological probabilities in the long-lead ENSO Outlook than might be suggested by the suite of models. Furthermore, the expected skill of one model versus another has not been established using uniform validation procedures, which may cause a difference in the true probability distribution from that taken verbatim from the raw model predictions.


An alternative way to assess the probabilities of the three possible ENSO conditions is to use the mean of the predictions of all models, and to construct a standard error function centered on that mean. The standard error would be Gaussian in shape, and would have its width determined by an estimate of overall expected model skill for the season of the year and the lead time. Higher skill would result in a relatively narrower error distribution, while low skill would result in an error distribution with width approaching that of the historical observed distribution. This method shows probabilities for La Niña at near 100% for Dec-Feb and Jan-Mar, remaining at 96% or more through Mar-May 2011. (Note that the threshold for La Niña weakens from approximately -0.65C to -0.40C between Dec-Feb and Mar-May, due to the seasonality of the interannual variance). The forecasters believe, however, that the Mar-May model-based probability may be higher than it should be, due to a common model bias of persisting ENSO episodes for too long a duration at the end of their typical seasonal cycle. Model probabilities for La Niña are 51% for May-Jul, and decrease to the climatological probability of 25% for Aug-Oct. The same cautions mentioned above for the distribution of model predictions apply to this alternative method of inferring probabilities, due to differing model biases and skills. In particular, this approach considers only the mean of the predictions, and not the range across the models, nor the ensemble range within individual models.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1584 Postby cycloneye » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:47 pm

Climate Prediction Center 12/27/10 Weekly Update

More cold the Nino 3.4 area than the past three weeks,meaning,La Nina is holding very firm to the Moderate to Strong status.

Three Week's ago Update

Niño 4= -1.3ºC
Niño= 3.4 -1.5ºC
Niño 3= -1.7ºC
Niño1+2= -1.7ºC


This Week's Update

Niño 4= -1.4ºC
Niño 3.4= -1.7ºC
Niño 3= -1.8ºC
Niño1+2= -1.5ºC

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1585 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:15 am

The 30 day SOI index is in the stratosphere as you can see,meaning,the Moderate to Strong La Nina wont go away anytime soon,in the next few months.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1586 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:33 pm

Climate Prediction Center January Update

No change from the December one,which means,La Nina holding thru the Northern Hemisphere Spring.After that,is uncertain if La Nina will mantain at least in a weaker stage,or Neutral ENSO dominates thru the Summer months.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... odisc.html

Synopsis: La Niña is expected to continue well into the Northern Hemisphere spring 2011

A moderate-to-strong La Niña continued during December 2010 as reflected by well below-average sea surface temperatures (SSTs) across the equatorial Pacific Ocean (Fig. 1). All of the Niño indices were –1.5oC at the end of December, except for the easternmost Niño-1+2 region (Fig. 2). The subsurface oceanic heat content (average temperatures in the upper 300m of the ocean, Fig. 3) continued to reflect a large reservoir of below-average temperatures at depth in the central and eastern equatorial Pacific (Fig. 4). Convection remained enhanced over Indonesia and suppressed over the western and central equatorial Pacific (Fig. 5). Also, enhanced low-level easterly trade winds and anomalous upper-level westerly winds continued over the equatorial Pacific. Collectively, these oceanic and atmospheric anomalies reflect the ongoing La Niña.

The current ENSO model forecasts have not changed significantly compared to last month (Fig. 6). La Niña is currently near its peak and is expected to persist into the Northern Hemisphere spring 2011 at a lesser intensity. Thereafter, there remains considerable uncertainty as to whether La Niña will last into the Northern Hemisphere summer (as suggested by the NCEP CFS and a few other models), or whether there will be a transition to ENSO-neutral conditions (as suggested by the CPC CON and a majority of the other models).

Likely La Niña impacts during January-March 2011 include suppressed convection over the west-central tropical Pacific Ocean, and enhanced convection over Indonesia. Impacts in the United States include an enhanced chance of above-average precipitation in the Pacific Northwest, Northern Rockies (along with a concomitant increase in snowfall), Great Lakes, and Ohio Valley. Below-average precipitation is favored across the southwestern and southeastern states. An increased chance of below-average temperatures is predicted for much of the West Coast and northern tier of states (excluding New England), and a higher possibility of above-average temperatures is forecast for much of the southern and central U.S. (see 3-month seasonal outlook released on December 16th, 2010). While seasonal temperature and precipitation patterns in the U.S. are strongly influenced by La Niña, these signals can be modified by other factors, such as the Arctic Oscillation (AO)/ North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO).

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1587 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:56 pm

By the looks of things,this La Nina will not go anytime soon in the comming few months as it seems to get stronger.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1588 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:11 pm

Climate Prediction Center Weekly Update at 1/18/11

More cooler the Nino 3.4 area than two weeks ago,meaning that La Nina is here to stay thru the Spring months and maybe thru the Summer as CFS model shows.

Three Weeks Ago Update

Niño 4= -1.3ºC
Niño= 3.4 -1.5ºC
Niño 3= -1.7ºC
Niño1+2= -1.7ºC



This Week Update

Niño 4= -1.6ºC
Niño 3.4= -1.8ºC
Niño 3= -1.5ºC
Niño1+2= -0.7ºC


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... ts-web.pdf

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Re: ENSO Updates=CPC 1/18/11=Nino 3.4 down to -1.8C

#1589 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:48 pm

Which model will nail the future of ENSO in the comming months?

Here are two of the most important ENSO Models and they are not on the same page as CFS is for a two year La Nina duration,while,the Australian POAMA Model is Neutral by the Summer. Which one will be right?

A two year La Nina duration? If the CFS (NCEP) model is right,that is what is in the cards.

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However,the POAMA Model says Neutral ENSO by the Summer.

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Re: ENSO Updates=CPC 1/18/11=Nino 3.4 down to -1.8C

#1590 Postby Ptarmigan » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:42 pm

cycloneye wrote:Which model will nail the future of ENSO in the comming months?

Here are two of the most important ENSO Models and they are not on the same page as CFS is for a two year La Nina duration,while,the Australian POAMA Model is Neutral by the Summer. Which one will be right?

A two year La Nina duration? If the CFS (NCEP) model is right,that is what is in the cards.

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3861 ... sstsea.gif

However,the POAMA Model says Neutral ENSO by the Summer.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/315/poamanino34.gif


If we have a prolonged La Nina, it would be a first since Fall 1998 to Winter 2001. Prolonged La Ninas happen more than a prolonged El Nino.
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#1591 Postby Metalicwx220 » Tue Jan 18, 2011 7:35 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Which model will nail the future of ENSO in the comming months?

Here are two of the most important ENSO Models and they are not on the same page as CFS is for a two year La Nina duration,while,the Australian POAMA Model is Neutral by the Summer. Which one will be right?

A two year La Nina duration? If the CFS (NCEP) model is right,that is what is in the cards.

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3861 ... sstsea.gif

However,the POAMA Model says Neutral ENSO by the Summer.

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/315/poamanino34.gif


If we have a prolonged La Nina, it would be a first since Fall 1998 to Winter 2001. Prolonged La Ninas happen more than a prolonged El Nino.

TWO YEAR LA NINA DURATION‚ The drought would be disgusting for the south or DUSTBOWL. Two more active hurricanes seasons and tornado seasons. Winters would be warm and dry but not the case with this winter.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1592 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:47 am

Australian 1/19/11 Update

Another source that confirms how strong is La Nina at this time.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
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#1593 Postby KWT » Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:02 am

Really 2007 to winter 2008-2009 was a prolonged La Nina as well, not as long as some other events and it did have weaker gaps but that period was pretty much a La Nina pattern till the El Nino of 2009 kicked in during April.
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#1594 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:45 pm

KWT wrote:Really 2007 to winter 2008-2009 was a prolonged La Nina as well, not as long as some other events and it did have weaker gaps but that period was pretty much a La Nina pattern till the El Nino of 2009 kicked in during April.


I forgot about 2007-2009 being La Nina. :oops: The reason that I did not mention 2007-2009 was because the NOAA did not consider Winter 2008-2009 as La Nina, even thought it should been. Winter of 2008-2009 was interesting because it snowed and for the most part was mild and dry. April 2009 was very wet. 2009 was one of the years that went from La Nina to El Nino. I noticed years that went from La Nina to El Nino are rare, but when it happens, the winters are colder. Some of the coldest winters occurred when the previous winter was La Nina.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... ears.shtml

If it was not for Edouard and Ike in 2008, we would have had a very dry year.
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#1595 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:24 am

Here are all the ENSO models in their January update.Read the text summary below the graphic, as there are interesting things that for sure we will have to follow in the comming months.

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http://iri.columbia.edu/climate/ENSO/cu ... table.html

Current Conditions
As of mid-January 2011, SSTs continue to indicate moderate to strong La Niña conditions in the central and eastern equatorial Pacific. For December the SST anomaly in the NINO3.4 region was -1.53 C, indicative of moderate to strong La Niña conditions, and for the October-December season the anomaly was -1.52 C. Currently the IRI's definition of El Niño conditions rests on an index of SST anomalies, averaged over the NINO3.4 region (5S-5N; 170W-120W), exceeding the warmest 25%-ile of the historical distribution, and similarly for La Niña relative to the 25%-ile coldest conditions in the historical distribution. The NINO3.4 anomaly necessary to qualify as La Niña or El Niño conditions for the Jan-Feb-Mar and the Feb-Mar-Apr seasons are approximately (-0.55C, 0.50) and (-0.45, 0.40), respectively.


Expected Conditions
The most recent weekly SST anomaly in the NINO3.4 region is -1.7 C, indicating moderate to strong La Niña conditions in the tropical Pacific; this is just slightly cooler than the -1.53 C level observed in December. What is the outlook for the ENSO status going forward? January is a time of the year during which the observed ENSO state is often beginning to move toward weaker anomaly values, particularly if an ENSO episode has been occurring. One might ask whether the current La Niña condition should therefore be expected to weaken, and if so, at what rate. In the current case, negative subsurface sea temperature anomalies have continued to occupy the central and eastern equatorial Pacific, and have shown little tendency to weaken even in the last one to two months as the event has been in the process of discharging at the surface. Sea temperature anomalies below the surface often portend SST anomalies to be expected in the following few months, as they are subject to the climatological upwelling in the eastern part of the basin. Current low-level wind anomalies indicate much enhanced trades, especially in the western and west-central portion of the tropical Pacific, and very strongly positive traditional and equatorial SOI indices. These atmospheric features imply above-average upwelling activity in the eastern tropical Pacific, at least for the near term, and suggest that the negative subsurface sea temperature anomalies will likely continue to find their way to the surface during the coming two or more months. The continued surfacing of below-average subsurface waters implies a likelihood for short-term (at least one month) continuation of the strength of the currently moderate to strong La Niña conditions, despite that the seasonal cycle of ENSO suggests a typical decline in strength at this time of year. Above-average subsurface waters exist in the western tropical Pacific, and although they have been edging eastward during the last few months they do not appear poised to displace the large volume of below-average water to their east for at least two or more months, and possibly longer.

Presently, the models and observations taken together indicate probabilities of approximately 98% for maintaining La Niña conditions, near 2% for returning to ENSO-neutral conditions, and nearly 0% for developing El Niño conditions during the Jan-Mar 2011 season in progress. Probabilities for La Niña decrease slightly to 88% for Feb-Apr, and to 67% for Mar-May. In late northern spring the probabilities for La Niña weaken at a faster rate, declining to 46% for Apr-Jun and to 27% for Jun-Aug and for the following several seasons.


The above assessment was made in part on the basis of an examination of the current predictions of ENSO prediction models as well as the observed conditions. For purposes of this discussion, El Niño SST conditions are defined as SSTs in the NINO3.4 region being in the warmest 25% of their climatological distribution for the 3-month period in question over the 1950-present timeframe. The corresponding cutoff in terms of degrees C of SST anomaly varies seasonally, being close to 0.40 degrees C in boreal late-spring to early-summer season and as high as 0.75 degrees C in late boreal autumn. La Niña conditions are defined as NINO3.4 region SSTs being in the coolest 25% of the climatological distribution. Neutral conditions occupy the remaining 50% of the distribution. These definitions were developed such that the most commonly accepted El Niño and La Niña episodes are reproduced.

The models show unanimous agreement regarding the continuation of La Niña conditions into part of the second quarter of 2011, but vary somewhat in their predictions of the rate of decreasing strength starting from the Jan-Mar season. Most statistical and dynamical models call for at least moderate La Niña strength (stronger than -1C) through the Feb-Apr season. For the Jan-Mar, Feb-Apr and Mar-May seasons, 100% of the models are predicting La Niña conditions, while none predicts ENSO-neutral conditions. Following Mar-May, some models begin indicating a return to neutral ENSO conditions, but not to the point of being a majority until the May-Jul season. By Jul-Sep, two of the 23 models call for weak El Niño conditions. At lead times of 4 or more months into the future, statistical and dynamical models that incorporate information about the ocean's observed subsurface thermal structure generally exhibit higher predictive skill than those that do not. Among models that do use subsurface temperature information, 6 of 13 (46%) predict ENSO-neutral SSTs for the Jun-Aug seasons, 6 of 13 (46%) predict La Niña conditions, and 1 of 13 (8%) predict El Niño conditions. (Note 1). (Note that La Niña conditions for Jun-Aug require a NINO3.4 SST anomaly of -0.50 or stronger, and El Niño conditions require 0.45 or stronger.) Caution is advised in interpreting the distribution of model predictions as the actual probabilities. At longer leads, the skill of the models degrades, and skill uncertainty must be convolved with the uncertainties from initial conditions and differing model physics, leading to more climatological probabilities in the long-lead ENSO Outlook than might be suggested by the suite of models. Furthermore, the expected skill of one model versus another has not been established using uniform validation procedures, which may cause a difference in the true probability distribution from that taken verbatim from the raw model predictions.


An alternative way to assess the probabilities of the three possible ENSO conditions is to use the mean of the predictions of all models, and to construct a standard error function centered on that mean. The standard error would be Gaussian in shape, and would have its width determined by an estimate of overall expected model skill for the season of the year and the lead time. Higher skill would result in a relatively narrower error distribution, while low skill would result in an error distribution with width approaching that of the historical observed distribution. This method shows probabilities for La Niña at near 100% for Jan-Mar and Feb-Apr, declining to 95% for Mar-May and 69% for Apr-Jun. (Note that the threshold for La Niña weakens from approximately -0.55C to -0.45C between Jan-Mar and Apr-Jun, due to the seasonality of the interannual variance). The forecasters believe, however, that the northern spring model-based probabilities for La Niña may be higher than it should be, due to a common model bias of persisting ENSO episodes for too long a duration at the end of their typical seasonal cycle. Model probabilities for La Niña are 46% for May-Jul, and decrease to less than 40% for Jul-Sep and beyond. The same cautions mentioned above for the distribution of model predictions apply to this alternative method of inferring probabilities, due to differing model biases and skills. In particular, this approach considers only the mean of the predictions, and not the range across the models, nor the ensemble range within individual models.

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1596 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:11 pm

Those very warm subsurface waters have been slowly propagating eastward and have displaced some of the cool waters that the Westcentral Pacific had in recent months.Let's see how more east that warm pool moves or stays where it is.Now is the period to watch in the next 2-3 months very closely to see how La Nina behaves, to watch if it starts to fade slowly or more rapidly,or if it's going to be a two year event.

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Re: ENSO Updates=CPC 1/31/11 Update=Nino 3.4 at -1.7

#1597 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:14 am

Climate Prediction Center 1/31/11 Update

No big changes in this update,except Nino 1-2 is warmer.The big question is if La Nina has already peaked.

Two Weeks Ago Update

Niño 4= -1.6ºC
Niño 3.4= -1.8ºC
Niño 3= -1.5ºC
Niño1+2= -0.7ºC


This Week Update

Niño 4=-1.3ºC
Niño 3.4=-1.7ºC
Niño 3= -1.4ºC
Niño1+2= 0.0ºC


http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... ts-web.pdf

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Re: ENSO Updates=CPC Feb update=La Nina or Neutral by May-June

#1598 Postby cycloneye » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:58 am

Climate Prediction Center Febuary update,La Nina or Neutral Enso by May-June timeframe

Interesting this update in terms of adding both La Nina and Neutral to the forecast for May thru June.The $64,000 question is if El Nino surprises and appears by the fall.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... odisc.html


Synopsis: ENSO-Neutral or La Niña conditions are equally likely during May-June 2011

La Niña persisted during January 2011 as reflected by well below-average sea surface temperatures (SSTs) across much of the equatorial Pacific Ocean (Fig. 1). However, some weakening was evident in certain atmospheric and oceanic anomalies, in part due to Madden-Julian Oscillation activity. Most Niño indices were between –1oC and –1.5oC at the end of January, with the easternmost Niño-1+2 region returning to near-average (Fig. 2). A lessening of the negative subsurface oceanic heat content anomalies (average temperatures in the upper 300m of the ocean, Fig. 3) was observed mostly in association with an eastward shift in the above-average temperatures at depth in the central equatorial Pacific (Fig. 4). Convection remained enhanced over Indonesia and suppressed over the western and central equatorial Pacific (Fig. 5). Also over the western and central equatorial Pacific, the anomalous low-level easterly and upper-level westerly winds decreased in magnitude. Collectively, these oceanic and atmospheric anomalies reflect an ongoing, mature La Niña that has begun to weaken.

Nearly all of the ENSO model forecasts weaken La Niña in the coming months (Fig. 6). A majority of the models predict a return to ENSO-neutral conditions by May-June-July 2011, although some models persist a weaker La Niña into the Northern Hemisphere summer 2011. Recent trends in the observations and models do not offer many hints on which outcome is more likely. Also, model skill is historically at a minimum during the Northern Hemisphere spring (the “spring barrier”). Therefore La Niña is expected to weaken during the next several months, with ENSO-neutral or La Niña conditions equally likely during May-June 2011.

Expected La Niña impacts during February-April 2011 include suppressed convection over the west-central tropical Pacific Ocean, and enhanced convection over Indonesia. Potential impacts in the United States include an enhanced chance of above-average precipitation in the Northern Rockies and western regions of the Northern Plains (along with a concomitant increase in snowfall), Great Lakes, and Ohio Valley. Below-average precipitation is favored across much of the southern states. An increased chance of below-average temperatures is predicted for much of the West Coast and northern tier of states (excluding New England), and a higher possibility of above-average temperatures is forecast for much of the southern and central U.S. (see 3-month seasonal outlook released on January 20th, 2011).


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Re: ENSO Updates

#1599 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:08 am

I don't think the end game will matter. It looks like a weak La Nina or Neutral phase will be present, the outcome will be the same in my opinion. Another active season can be expected.
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#1600 Postby KWT » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:08 am

Yeah and I think even if we somehow got into low end positive figures, say even upto 0.6-0.7C I think its not going to make a huge difference if other background factors are positive.
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