Tropical Wave with low in East Atlantic (Is invest 91L)

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Tropical Wave with low in East Atlantic (Is invest 91L)

#1 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:26 am

Is prime time now and every wave that emerges West Africa has to be watched for potential to develop down the road. Of course some of them are weak and others are stronger and this one in Central Africa at a fairly low latitude looks like the ladder. I think some models have something in the Eastern Atlantic and this may be the one. Let's see what it does when it emerges the coast later this week.

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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#2 Postby HurricaneFan » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:48 am

The Euro was one of them at 12Z yesterday.
It also seems to suggest that it would not make it across(although it is still early)
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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#3 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:48 am

The GFS for several runs develops this into something interesting
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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#4 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:24 am

12z GFS develops this wave.

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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#5 Postby SFLcane » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:37 am

cycloneye wrote:12z GFS develops this wave.

http://oi50.tinypic.com/15sanfr.jpg


developes it rather quickly so more then likely it should recurve into the open atlantic.

edit..extreme long range recurves it near PR and the Bahamas.
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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#6 Postby HurricaneFan » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:40 am

That looks like a big recurve pattern on the 12Z GFS.Are the other models predicting the same pattern to develop?And for how long if so?
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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#7 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:17 pm

The global models in the latest runs continue to develop this one with the Euro revurving it and GFS moving it mainly westward for a good deal of time. Let's see when it makes the splash into the Atlantic how it does.
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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#8 Postby ROCK » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:39 pm

been watching this one...models are all over it..even the NOGAPS....
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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#9 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:41 pm

The GFS has it almost over Miami towards the end of the run. Of course this will change.
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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#10 Postby somethingfunny » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:09 am

GFS consistently making this wave a powerful hurricane by the end of two weeks - location undecided. Euro recurved it MUCH sooner, and we'll see what the 0z Euro shows soon. Edit: 0z Euro is farther west.

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Re: Nice wave inside Africa: Will it be the next CV development?

#11 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:30 am

Here is the saved image from Tuesday morning where it shows the circulation at low latitud but not a lot of convection at this time. Is moving slowly westward as you can see the pic from yesterday at the first post to todays position.

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Re: Disturbance inside Africa: Will it be the next development?

#12 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:44 am

Is now Pouch 25L. Maybe it merges with the pouch 24L ahead and forms into a very organized system. Let's see what occurs in the next few days with these players.

http://www.met.nps.edu/~mtmontgo/storms2012/P25L.html

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Re: Disturbance inside Africa: (Pouch P25L)

#13 Postby HurricaneFan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:10 am

But isn't P23L a good bit to the WSW than what is shown in that image?(there is another thread about this Wave now)
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Re: Disturbance inside Africa: (Pouch P25L)

#14 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:18 pm

GFS really develops this pouch and tracks it torwards the Caribbean but later it goes up to Bahamas and just off East Coast of U.S. This is at 288 hours when it almost hits Puerto Rico.

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Re: Disturbance inside Africa: (Pouch P25L)

#15 Postby HurricaneFan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:06 pm

Although it is still early,it looks like there is no consistency or agreement on whether this will recurve or make it to the Islands or even a Caribbean cruiser,is that so?
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Re: Disturbance inside Africa: (Pouch P25L)

#16 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:11 pm

HurricaneFan wrote:Although it is still early,it looks like there is no consistency or agreement on whether this will recurve or make it to the Islands or even a Caribbean cruiser,is that so?


You are right. Is still early to say what kind of track this is going to take. We have to wait until it emerges West Africa,to see if it organizes and see how are the big players doing in the Atlantic (Troughs and Ridges) to see how is it going to track.
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Re: Disturbance in West Africa: (Global Models develop)

#17 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:27 pm

Saved image of West Africa at 00:30 UTC.

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Re: Disturbance in West Africa: (Global Models develop)

#18 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:32 am

Dr Masters brief take today on the next CV development.

GFS and ECMWF models are predicting that a new tropical wave due to move off the coast of Africa on Friday will develop into a tropical depression by the middle of next week. It's too early to tell if this system might threaten the Lesser Antilles Islands.
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Re: Disturbance in West Africa: (Global Models develop)

#19 Postby somethingfunny » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:20 pm

What a strange looking upper level feature this is that grabs hold of this system and pulls it into a recurve on the 12z GFS:

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I suspect that the system won't develop as quickly as the global models are suggesting... based on the hostile trends in the MDR this season.
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Re: Disturbance in West Africa: (Global Models develop)

#20 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:28 pm

somethingfunny wrote:What a strange looking upper level feature this is that grabs hold of this system and pulls it into a recurve on the 12z GFS:

http://i.imgur.com/l9Fqz.gif

I suspect that the system won't develop as quickly as the global models are suggesting... based on the hostile trends in the MDR this season.


Yeah,a quick developer in that run recurves more fast. But past runs had it much more weak moving west reaching or brushing the northern Lesser Antilles.
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