2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

This is the general tropical discussion area. Anyone can take their shot at predicting a storms path.

Moderator: S2k Moderators

Forum rules

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or STORM2K. For official information, please refer to products from the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service.

Help Support Storm2K
Message
Author
LarryWx
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5739
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:04 pm
Location: GA

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1781 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:59 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:The GFS does seem to have a bias with gyre genesis in the Western Caribbean. It developed Alberto way too early as well as that hurricane in June which never verified. Until the operational Euro and/or UKMET come on board, it's going to be hard for me to take genesis in that region seriously.


I agree about the bias, which has even caused in the past numerous runs in a row with W Caribbean activity in late Sep/early Oct that never verified. So, a grain of salt is strongly recommended to be taken especially it being nearly 2 weeks out. Nevertheless fwiw, the 12Z GEFS continues the same hints there and 'tis the season down there for genesis, starting mid to late Sep. but really picking up early to mid Oct. before falling back starting late Oct.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/climo/

# of Geneses W. Caribbean (W of 75W)(1851-2017):
9/1-10: 6
9/11-20: 14
9/21-30: 16
10/1-10: 32
10/11-20: 34
10/21-31: 16

So, climo alone says 60% chance of a TS+ forming just in W Caribbean and just within 9/21-10/31. Climo support doesn't get much stronger than that for such a small area.
3 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
blp
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 2807
Age: 45
Joined: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:51 pm
Location: Miami, FL
Contact:

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1782 Postby blp » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:33 pm

MJO making a push toward our region toward the end of the month so this uptick in activity on the GFS might be legit. Both GEFS and Euro show it.

Image

Image
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by any professional institution including storm2k.org For Official Information please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
SoupBone
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3073
Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:24 pm

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1783 Postby SoupBone » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:40 pm

blp wrote:MJO making a push toward our region toward the end of the month so this uptick in activity on the GFS might be legit. Both GEFS and Euro show it.



This is to suggest we haven't had an uptick in activity. 8-) :lol:
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

LarryWx
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5739
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:04 pm
Location: GA

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1784 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:58 pm

The 12Z EPS has very little activity end of month with more activity EPAC.
1 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
MetroMike
Category 3
Category 3
Posts: 829
Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:13 pm
Location: Tampa Bay
Contact:

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1785 Postby MetroMike » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:57 pm

LarryWx wrote:The 12Z EPS has very little activity end of month with more activity EPAC.


Yes the Atl basin should be dead till end of month.
1 likes   

LarryWx
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5739
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:04 pm
Location: GA

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1786 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:14 pm

MetroMike wrote:
LarryWx wrote:The 12Z EPS has very little activity end of month with more activity EPAC.


Yes the Atl basin should be dead till end of month.


The Happy Hour GEFS has activity near the end of the month but it is rather muted compared to the prior 3 runs. For a Happy Hour run, which has in recent years tended to be the most active of the 4 runs in the W Caribbean this time of year, it was actually rather tame. So, we'll see if this means a quieter trend for 10/1 as we move forward.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

LarryWx
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 5739
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2003 2:04 pm
Location: GA

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1787 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:17 pm

This is very much just a fwiw, but the 18Z FV3 has a SW Caribbean TC form 9/28 before moving into the NW Caribbean 9/30-10/2.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecasts and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
eastcoastFL
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3437
Age: 42
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:29 pm
Location: Palm City, FL

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1788 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:24 pm

Image

Looks like a TC off of the tip of W. Cuba October 2nd. Looks to be heading towards south Florida.
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
eastcoastFL
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 3437
Age: 42
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:29 pm
Location: Palm City, FL

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1789 Postby eastcoastFL » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:25 pm

LarryWx wrote:This is very much just a fwiw, but the 18Z FV3 has a SW Caribbean TC form 9/28 before moving into the NW Caribbean 9/30-10/2.


That looks interesting. Appears headed towards S. Fl
0 likes   
Personal Forecast Disclaimer:
The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products.

User avatar
TheStormExpert
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8487
Age: 30
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:38 pm
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1790 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:36 am

Maybe the GFS is onto something?

 https://twitter.com/crownweather/status/1041546694385692672




06z GFS beyond 10 days for what it's worth.

Image
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by storm2k.org.

User avatar
gatorcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 23499
Age: 46
Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:54 pm
Location: Boca Raton, FL

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1791 Postby gatorcane » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:20 am

The 06Z GEFS ends with a strong Western Caribbean signal for development:

Image
0 likes   

User avatar
TheStormExpert
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8487
Age: 30
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:38 pm
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1792 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:59 am

:uarrow: That's the most bullish the GEFS Ensembles have been with regards to anything developing in the Western Caribbean in the long-range so far. Lets see what the 12z and 18z runs and its Ensembles show.
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by storm2k.org.

User avatar
SFLcane
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 9617
Age: 46
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:44 pm
Location: Lake Worth Florida

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1793 Postby SFLcane » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:32 am

Careful guys might be a phantom storm from good ole GFS. This morning's FV3 has nada has all development in the eastern pacific.
0 likes   

User avatar
TheStormExpert
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8487
Age: 30
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:38 pm
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1794 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:39 am

SFLcane wrote:Careful guys might be a phantom storm from good ole GFS. This morning's FV3 has nada has all development in the eastern pacific.

Yesterday’s 18z FV-3 GFS had it too but since has dropped it. The 06z run of that same model shows lowering pressure in the Western Caribbean in 14-16 days.

FWIW, the FV-3 GFS has had more phantom storms than the current soon to be old-GFS has had.
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by storm2k.org.

User avatar
SEASON_CANCELED
Category 3
Category 3
Posts: 887
Joined: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:17 am
Location: 8 Bit Charlie Sheen

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1795 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:02 am

It got my attention but way to far out to draw any conclusions. will check back in 10 days
0 likes   
i am a big stupid ugly moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt stinks and i like to kiss my own butt

canes92
Tropical Depression
Tropical Depression
Posts: 96
Age: 31
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:51 pm

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1796 Postby canes92 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:35 am

What general path do the models show the storms taking? Towards Gulf, TX or FL?
0 likes   

User avatar
toad strangler
S2K Supporter
S2K Supporter
Posts: 4172
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:09 pm
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1797 Postby toad strangler » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:44 am

canes92 wrote:What general path do the models show the storms taking? Towards Gulf, TX or FL?



Way to early to even guess. Just looking at signals for possible genesis right now.
2 likes   

User avatar
TheStormExpert
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 8487
Age: 30
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:38 pm
Location: Palm Beach Gardens, FL

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1798 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:57 am

12z GFS keeps the monsoon Gyre over Central America and parts of the Bay of Campeche with little to no development.
0 likes   
The following post is NOT an official forecast and should not be used as such. It is just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. It is NOT endorsed by storm2k.org.

User avatar
Hurricaneman
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 7284
Age: 43
Joined: Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:24 pm
Location: central florida

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1799 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:02 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:12z GFS keeps the monsoon Gyre over Central America and parts of the Bay of Campeche with little to no development.

If you went out even farther looking at the steering this would be another Opal in track so it seems the models a waffling around right now and when it’s not beyond truncation is when we should start watching
0 likes   

User avatar
CyclonicFury
Category 5
Category 5
Posts: 1975
Age: 25
Joined: Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:32 pm
Location: NC
Contact:

Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1800 Postby CyclonicFury » Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:05 pm

The signal I get from the GFS is a Central American Gyre (CAG) may form to close out September or in early October. I will need support from the Euro and/or UKMET to take it more seriously.
3 likes   
NCSU B.S. in Meteorology Class of 2021. Tropical weather blogger at http://www.cyclonicfury.com. My forecasts and thoughts are NOT official, for official forecasts please consult the National Hurricane Center.


Return to “Talkin' Tropics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: bird, chaser1, FireRat, hurricanes1234, kevin, Stratton23, weatherSnoop, zzzh and 61 guests