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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#41 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:11 pm

gatorcane wrote:The GFS basically is leaving the possibility open Florida or EC of US could get hit from the east in October. Wow that would be something.


Getting hit from the east on EC 10/1-15 has happened only once every 30 years since 1851: 1966, 1947, 1941, 1916, 1913. Now, getting hit from E to SSE 10/1-15 has occured once every 10 years with last one Matthew.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#42 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:29 pm

annnd here comes the good ole GFS 00z :P
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#43 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:46 pm

0Z ICON similar to previous runs with track over E Cuba heading NNE.

Looks like a recurve with much weaker ridging that is leaving.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#44 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:56 pm

So far through 78hrs on the 0zGFS it has formation and not in a silly feedback vorticity
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#45 Postby meriland29 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:06 pm

Okay.... what is going on with GFS models... a FL hit with a tight nit hurricane leftover from Kirk? Wow... what the heck did I miss the past 24 hours..
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#46 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:10 pm

0Z UK: again focused on EPAC

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 144 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+144 : 14.5N 94.2W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 07.10.2018 144 14.5N 94.2W 1003 37
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#47 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:16 pm

The 0zGFS now has a convective feedback system Between Jamaica and Cuba, starting to think the Canadian might have a better handle on this, so let’s see what the Euro shows then either I will go with the GFS or against it
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#48 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:16 pm

0Z GFS setting up for further west track than last few runs.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#49 Postby LarryWx » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:20 pm

0Z CMC fwiw E GOM
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#50 Postby blp » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:21 pm

LarryWx wrote:0Z GFS setting up for further west track than last few runs.


Yep this is a different run. Maybe it finally shifted.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#51 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:29 pm

blp wrote:
LarryWx wrote:0Z GFS setting up for further west track than last few runs.


Yep this is a different run. Maybe it finally shifted.


Looks like the 0zGFS does nothing with this system
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#52 Postby blp » Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:38 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
blp wrote:
LarryWx wrote:0Z GFS setting up for further west track than last few runs.


Yep this is a different run. Maybe it finally shifted.


Looks like the 0zGFS does nothing with this system


We will have to see what the ensembles say to see what this means. It could be the Ops run failed to develop but the ensembles are stronger. We will see but at least this run makes more sense.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#53 Postby AJC3 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:01 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
blp wrote:
LarryWx wrote:0Z GFS setting up for further west track than last few runs.


Yep this is a different run. Maybe it finally shifted.


Looks like the 0zGFS does nothing with this system


The 850MB streamline/vort forecast through H240 shows an elongated, strung out mess. It appears the primary area of vorticity drifts W to WNW to near or over the Yucatan peninsula. This leaves an even weaker, elongated trough to drift north across the Greater Antilles and into the Bahamas/Sargasso Sea. Around days 9-10, a very "feedback-y" looking 850MB vortex/surface low spins up at the eastern end of this trough, well north of PR and the VI.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#54 Postby LarryWx » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:30 am

blp wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:
blp wrote:
Yep this is a different run. Maybe it finally shifted.


Looks like the 0zGFS does nothing with this system


We will have to see what the ensembles say to see what this means. It could be the Ops run failed to develop but the ensembles are stronger. We will see but at least this run makes more sense.


OZ GEFS: not whole lot of activity but more than 18Z with FL Big Bend hit by 1 H 10/10 and a TS riding up FL E coast 10/11-12 from another member.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#55 Postby LarryWx » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:23 am

0Z FV3: weakening ridging allows TC to stay offshore E US.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#56 Postby otowntiger » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:19 am

So sounds like not much to worry about with this possible developing system.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#57 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:30 am

GFS trending towards a strung out mess SW to NE in the Northwestern Caribbean.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#58 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Oct 01, 2018 5:31 am

otowntiger wrote:So sounds like not much to worry about with this possible developing system.

Latest model trends to me seem less alarming, but you know the drill, just watch and wait.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#59 Postby ronjon » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:07 am

00z ECM has 1006 mb low pressure in the western caribbean in one week. Keep your eyes on this model as it has the best performance of any at the longer ranges. GFS, well, enough said about its generally poor performance. Shear seems like it might inhibit at least rapid development. Time to watch model trends.
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Re: Broad area of disturbed weather in the southwestern Caribbean Sea

#60 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:17 am

Seeing a strong system in the western Caribbean in the 5-10 day range is not looking very likely, GFS and Euro are showing the shear not led up in this area. It will help in building convection and a vorticity to develop but because of the same shear it will have a hard time organizing, it will have to move out of the Caribbean. IMO.
El Nino conditions are basically here already.
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