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Re: ENSO: CPC 7/20/15 update: Nino 3.4 up to +1.7C

#6381 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:33 pm

Very big news here.This El Nino is up there with the biggies of the past.

Philip Klotzbach ‏@philklotzbach · 29m29 minutes ago
Weekly Nino 3 index at 2.3C. Only two El Ninos since 1950 have had monthly Nino 3 values >= 2.3C ('82-'83, '97-'98).


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#6382 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:25 pm

Goodness.
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#6383 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:54 pm

If it gives me a mild winter with little or no snow, I'm all for it.
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Re: ENSO: CPC 7/20/15 update: Nino 3.4 up to +1.7C

#6384 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:27 am

BoM has El Nino stronger.

El Niño continues to strengthen

Issued on 21 July 2015 | Product Code IDCKGEWW00

The 2015 El Niño continues to develop. Weakened (or reversed) trade winds have resulted in further warming over much of the tropical Pacific Ocean. All key ENSO ocean monitoring areas have been more than 1 °C above average for 10 successive weeks—two weeks longer than the record in 1997. The eastern tropical Pacific is now at or exceeding +2 °C. In the atmosphere, the past week has seen the Southern Oscillation Index (SOI) drop to around −20, the lowest values of the event so far.

All international climate models surveyed by the Bureau of Meteorology indicate El Niño is likely to strengthen, and is expected to persist into early 2016. El Niño events typically peak during the late austral spring or early summer, and then weaken in the new year.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/
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#6385 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:02 pm

Another big WWB is about to come to the dateline. Models are trending stronger as they have with all the previous ones, wow.
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Re: ENSO: BoM 7/21/15:El Nino gets stronger

#6386 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:28 pm

These are anoms, but there is actual west winds. Guidance has been trending upward each run

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Re: ENSO: BoM 7/21/15:El Nino gets stronger

#6387 Postby Ntxw » Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:37 pm

The ENSO Precipitation Index (ESPI) for the last 30 days is +3.01

The only Nino with ESPI bimonthly of a value >3 is 1997.
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Re: ENSO: BoM 7/21/15:El Nino gets stronger

#6388 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:01 pm

Ntxw wrote:The ENSO Precipitation Index (ESPI) for the last 30 days is +3.01

The only Nino with ESPI bimonthly of a value >3 is 1997.


That reading is mighty impressive.
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#6389 Postby WeatherGuesser » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:48 pm

All I want to know is how much wood and propane to have on hand for this winter.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6390 Postby NDG » Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:33 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmeUStFvz8&sns=em[/youtube]

Too funny.
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#6391 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:33 am

We are actually tracking very in proximity path to 1997. Side by side the pool underneath in 1997 in July is a bit stronger due to the KW starting in June of that year and maturing, but the thermocline slope difference is really less than 50m, even half that, as the KW continues to push it will get close. At the surface, this similar week in 1997 actually stair steps and cools as it pushes 2C into August. The big warming then resumed in September into fall. By August the 2 should remain fairly similar in ENSO 3.4 region. The big difference is 1+2 which 1997 beats 2015 and this year's warmth is more spread out between all four regions.

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And if you're still wondering or questioning it (and there are still a few meteorologists who do) the Nino has seen moderate weekly readings since late April >1C and near or above strong since mid June. Lets say it collapses from this on forward, we would still see a 1987-1988 esque event at the lower end scenario.
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6392 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:52 pm

The current 30 day SOI is -14.44
The current 90 day soi is -11.83
The July 26th conribution of the SOI is -12.56

These are solid El Nino numbers and this is one of the detirminations of El Nino Conditions

The MJO is disjointed in the circle expected to hit phase 1 breifly but back into the circle

The new downwelling kelvin wave seems to be kind of on the weaker side but still there while the old Kelvin wave is headed back to the CPAC maybe to surface making a run at Super Nino status

so based on these it is a positive for El Nino growth

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#6393 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:58 am

Nudge down to 1.6C this week
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6394 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:00 am

Text of CPC update of 7/27/15 that has Nino 3.4 at =1.6C.

http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/analys ... ts-web.pdf
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Re: ENSO Updates

#6395 Postby weatherdude1108 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:26 pm

NDG wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvmeUStFvz8&sns=em[/youtube]

Too funny.

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He was so funny!
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Re: ENSO:CPC 7/27/15 update=Nino 3.4 down to +1.6C

#6396 Postby Ptarmigan » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:40 pm

Why a ‘super El Niño’ could still be a bust for California drought relief
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/cap ... ht-relief/
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Re: ENSO:CPC 7/27/15 update=Nino 3.4 down to +1.6C

#6397 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:50 pm

The current SOI is

90 day -11.85
30 day -13.66
July 27th -17.17
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Re: ENSO:CPC 7/27/15 update=Nino 3.4 down to +1.6C

#6398 Postby Dean_175 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:25 pm

Another strong WWB coming:

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Re: ENSO:CPC 7/27/15 update=Nino 3.4 down to +1.6C

#6399 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jul 29, 2015 10:33 pm

Dean_175 wrote:Another strong WWB coming:

http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/ven ... .5S-5N.gif


Nothing is a guarantee, but I'd say this is going to see >2C here in about 2-4 weeks.
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#6400 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:00 am

Current SOI

90 day -12.12
30 day -13.24
July 29 -31.76

this plus the WWB might put EL Nino above +2 for the first time since January 1998 at some point

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