2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#741 Postby Nimbus » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:34 pm

Steve wrote:Also you can see the umbrella shape which was depicted in some of the models before they could resolve there would be split energy instead of a TS in the NE Gulf. No models really do anything with it except the NAM and RGEM do hint at some turning - just nothing past infant stage.


Lowest gulf pressures were near the Southwest Florida coast, Tampa buoy further north has dropped from 1023mb to 1015mb over the last couple days. Lots of shear induced convection with outflow boundaries in the visible imagery earlier. Something could spin up in another day or so.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#742 Postby Steve » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:23 pm

Yeah. I don’t know if it gets tropical or just some characteristics, but it’s something to keep half an eye on.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#743 Postby Steve » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:58 pm

GFS is out to 3.5 days. Fairly decent shot ima hit on that guess during Dorian of hitting 60 ACE by this weekend. Based on running GFS we could be 70-75 by next weekend. ?
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 1400&fh=72
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#744 Postby jasons2k » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:47 pm

Looks like OTS on this run. And not much rain for Texas from the Gulf either. We really need some more rain over here.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#745 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:49 pm

jasons wrote:Looks like OTS on this run. And not much rain for Texas from the Gulf either. We really need some more rain over here.


0z Canadian and ICON show plentiful rain in southeast TX along with some minor development from the Gulf system.

0z UKMET develops the Gulf system into a TS before moving into Houston next week.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#746 Postby stormlover2013 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:54 pm

I say it will show 30 percent chance in morning from Nhc
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#747 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:01 am

The 0zGFS seems to show something in the western Caribbean past 300hrs but most likely is a phantom until proven otherwise and it’s from the wave coming off of Africa tomorrow
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#748 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:18 am

Long range models still show the US as safe from any development coming from new Tropical Waves however, it has backed way way off of any cool-down coming to the gulf coast which makes me wonder if they may be changing their tune soon on OTS scenarios? Also local TV Met seems very interested and TWC expert still saying US needs to watch these waves.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#749 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:32 pm

Wow look at that monster upper anti-cyclone parked over the Western Caribbean and there are lower pressure anomalies as well. If something gets going under that watch out :eek:

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#750 Postby Tailspin » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:59 pm

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#751 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:13 pm

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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#752 Postby Bhuggs » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:29 am

Way too long range, but 0z gfs has a piece of energy in hours 300+ coming north through Cuba and into Florida. With the troughs this year favoring recurve on anything coming from the east, this is what I will be looking at for the rest of the season
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#753 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:03 am

The 0zGFS is showing western Caribbean development in the long run from a tropical wave that comes off of Africa in 4 1/2 days, maybe something to watch as it also develops it in the MDR but falls apart and continues west through the Caribbean

Note the development of this is day 14 which is prone to large errors but the 12z run had the beginnings of development from the same wave so if this is still there in the models in 7 days then we may have to keep an eye on this but it’s als had runs with the same wave that develop it in the MDR and go north
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#754 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:34 am

Looks quite active across the Atlantic long range models showing multiple systems but it’s looking like US will watch from a distance as these storms look to not bother anyone. Hopefully the same could be said for the Caribbean islands.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#755 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:46 am

I anticipate we'll see a Caribbean storm at some point. October + Phase 8/1 MJO means a Central American Gyre is quite possible. Quite hard to predict you can end with weak storms like Philipe 2017 or Michael in 2018.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#756 Postby bqknight » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:40 am

Quite a few Euro ensemble members are developing something by Venezuela around Day 6.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#757 Postby Astromanía » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:49 pm

EPAC, CPAC and ATL just exploded
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#758 Postby SconnieCane » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:52 pm

Astromanía wrote:EPAC, CPAC and ATL just exploded


At first I thought the quiet start was a head fake to a busy September/October with Dorian, then I thought Dorian was a head fake to a more active season after the next several invests fizzled despite model support for development. Now...

Welcome to September, folks.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#759 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:53 pm

Astromanía wrote:EPAC, CPAC and ATL just exploded


That's the power of the MJO. Can make activity explode in just days.
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Re: 2019 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#760 Postby stormzilla » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:41 pm

bqknight wrote:Quite a few Euro ensemble members are developing something by Venezuela around Day 6.

Saw that happening and wondering if its due to strong ridging? ....not good for us here in Trinidad :double:
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