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Re: 2017 indicators: SST's / MSLP / SAL / Steering / Instability

#801 Postby Weather150 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:13 pm

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Waves starting to come off at higher latitudes than they were 2-3 weeks ago, the progression northward is happening.
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#802 Postby NDG » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:38 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
NDG wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/MichaelRLowry/status/887430357255106560[/weet]


Those graphics line up well with CIMSS charts - except in the Caribbean, where westerly shear remains pretty vicious.


Nothing out of the ordinary in the Caribbean for this time of the year, if ENSO does indeed go more neutral during the heart of the hurricane season shear should continue to go down.
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#803 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:58 pm

I know this is the new GFS but I do hope it is wrong about it's days 12-16 wind shear anomaly, that looks to be at least 75% of the North Atlantic basin with above average wind shear.

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#804 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:12 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:I know this is the new GFS but I do hope it is wrong about it's days 12-16 wind shear anomaly, that looks to be at least 75% of the North Atlantic basin with above average wind shear.



Like we've talked about all day in this thread. The Atlantic is going to be a grave yard the next few weeks.
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#805 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:17 pm

It dosen't work like a switch that instantly waves begin to develop on August 1rst.Is a normal proccess that the atmosphere has that eventually we will have things to track during the peak period.
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#806 Postby Weather150 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:25 pm

cycloneye wrote:It dosen't work like a switch that instantly waves begin to develop on August 1rst.Is a normal proccess that the atmosphere has that eventually we will have things to track during the peak period.

It takes time for the atmosphere to transition and adjust.
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#807 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:06 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:I know this is the new GFS but I do hope it is wrong about it's days 12-16 wind shear anomaly, that looks to be at least 75% of the North Atlantic basin with above average wind shear.

http://i64.tinypic.com/5wca9u.png

The funny thing is...it's not.

Next week onward until about August 10th is when it will be completely shut down.
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#808 Postby weathaguyry » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:38 pm

Honestly, this time with no activity will probably let the water get really warm, since there is no convection stirring it up, it should get pretty warm, and may provide more energy for August
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#809 Postby Weather150 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:45 pm

weathaguyry wrote:Honestly, this time with no activity will probably let the water get really warm, since there is no convection stirring it up, it should get pretty warm, and may provide more energy for August

That is true, the Gulf and Caribbean just going to get warmer and warmer.
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#810 Postby Weather150 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:27 pm

Storms that flipped the "switch" over the past few years and started the train going.
2016: Fiona- Aug 16th
2015: Danny- Aug 18th
2014: Cristobal- Aug 23rd
2013: Erin- Aug 15th
2012: Ernesto- Aug 1st
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#811 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:12 pm

The switch was never flipped in 2013.
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#812 Postby CFLHurricane » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:14 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:The switch was never flipped in 2013.


I was just thinking this in the back of my cynical mind.

Then again 2013 is as rare an occurrence as the most hyperactive seasons.
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#813 Postby AxaltaRacing24 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:15 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:The switch was never flipped in 2013.

True the "lid" never came off that season. Although I do think that this season will be similar towards 2016 and the lid will definitely come off when mid-August begins.
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#814 Postby Hammy » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:19 pm

Going back some distance, I've noticed it's common for August to either have a decent amount of activity at the start, a lull in the middle, followed by another burst of activity at the end (2016 as an example) or be almost or entirely quiet for the first three weeks (2010 being a recent example.) Even 1995, despite having Felix lasting two weeks, nothing new formed the entire middle third of the month.
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#815 Postby Weather150 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:27 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:The switch was never flipped in 2013.

It technically was, it is just the storms were weaker than normal, put the pace of storms picked up after Erin.
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#816 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:57 pm

How long until season cancel posts are legit? :lol:
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#817 Postby AutoPenalti » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:59 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:How long until season cancel posts are legit? :lol:

Probably between now and now, me first...

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#818 Postby dexterlabio » Thu Jul 20, 2017 1:42 am

tarheelprogrammer wrote:How long until season cancel posts are legit? :lol:


Season cancel posts are only taken seriously in as late as October. The saying "never say never" is real, even during the Super El Nino year 2015. :lol:
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#819 Postby Hammy » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:56 am

Another massive outbreak of monsoonal convection off of Africa at the moment. The MDR has actually had very few low-convection days this season so far, which is quite a difference from the last several in the earlier part of the season.
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#820 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:10 am

@BenNollWeather
JMA: Pulses of enhanced convection across the Atlantic are probable during August- those with tropical interests should monitor closely.


 https://twitter.com/BenNollWeather/status/887991719492337664


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