Well Defined Wave off African Coast

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Well Defined Wave off African Coast

#1 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:46 pm

This wave has a clear circulation and GFS,EURO,and CMC show development.I know that all the attention is in 94L and 96L but this may be another one to pay attention as soon it emerges Africa.

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#2 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:51 pm

Wow, that looks quite impressive! Still has a long ways off till emerging over the Atlantic. Currently shear is very low in the eastern/central atlantic so this just might be our next invest.
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa

#3 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:58 pm

The 12z EURO shows it.Click where it says Southamerica.

http://www.ecmwf.int/products/forecasts ... 7091412!!/
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa

#4 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:00 pm

Here is another pic:

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#5 Postby wx247 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:40 pm

Oh good... another future invest. I think my brain may turn to mush. lol
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa

#6 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:12 pm

Euro looks to show a weakness it can recurve into, GFS seems to show it making it too close to comfort to the islands.

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Euro :uarrow:

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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#7 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:07 pm

18z GFs shows a weak low emerge Africa but it dissapears later.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#8 Postby Numlock » Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:57 pm

I'm skeptical. It seems like the models get a bit too eager with waves that are over or just coming off of Africa, and a lot of the time nothing happens.
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#9 Postby Wx_Warrior » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:47 pm

312 gfs

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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#10 Postby blp » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:51 pm

I have been looking at the UKMet this year as my model for cyclogensis because it has been the least bullish with systems and seems to have a good handle on the initial development. UKMet did not show much development with 94L in the Central Atlantic when the GFS and EURO were all bullish on development for several runs. Once the system actually develops I think the other models have had a better handle.

The 12Z UKmet has been more aggressive with development than the previous runs and we now have three consecutive runs with this low.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ukmtc2.c ... hour=120hr

So far 00Z GFS showing a stronger low than the 18Z.
144hrs
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_144l.gif
168hrs
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_168l.gif
300hr Fantasy Land has it over South Florida
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_300l.gif

NOGAPS has lower pressures in the area but is not on board with this yet.
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#11 Postby boca » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:54 pm

blp wrote:I have been looking at the UKMet this year as my model for cyclogensis because it has been the least bullish with systems and seems to have a good handle on the initial development. UKMet did not show much development with 94L in the Central Atlantic when the GFS and EURO were all bullish on development for several runs. Once the system actually develops I think the other models have had a better handle.

The 12Z UKmet has been more aggressive with development than the previous runs and we now have three consecutive runs with this low.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ukmtc2.c ... hour=120hr

So far 00Z GFS showing a stronger low than the 18Z.
144hrs
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_144l.gif
168hrs
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_168l.gif
300hr Fantasy Land has it over South Florida
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_300l.gif

NOGAPS has lower pressures in the area but is not on board with this yet.


You just beat me to that of that fantasy storm hitting S FL at 300 hrs.It does develop it at the medium range too.We just have to watch the model runs.
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#12 Postby blp » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:11 am

boca wrote:
blp wrote:I have been looking at the UKMet this year as my model for cyclogensis because it has been the least bullish with systems and seems to have a good handle on the initial development. UKMet did not show much development with 94L in the Central Atlantic when the GFS and EURO were all bullish on development for several runs. Once the system actually develops I think the other models have had a better handle.

The 12Z UKmet has been more aggressive with development than the previous runs and we now have three consecutive runs with this low.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ukmtc2.c ... hour=120hr

So far 00Z GFS showing a stronger low than the 18Z.
144hrs
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_144l.gif
168hrs
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_168l.gif
300hr Fantasy Land has it over South Florida
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... n_300l.gif

NOGAPS has lower pressures in the area but is not on board with this yet.


You just beat me to that of that fantasy storm hitting S FL at 300 hrs.It does develop it at the medium range too.We just have to watch the model runs.



Yea, I don't know why I have been hooked on this low. I guess I have a gut feeling this one will develop.
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#13 Postby blp » Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:29 am

Nice convection and good curvature on this low.

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#14 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:19 am

I think it could easily become an invest as soon as it hits the water. Curvature looks great!
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#15 Postby KWT » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:37 am

Not a bad looking wave I've got to admit with hints of cyclonic turning though convection has weakened a touch over the system over the last 6hrs as you'd expect at that time of the day.
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#16 Postby Meso » Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:53 am

This is almost exactly the same as Bertha... same sort of model support around the same time frame.And the 00z EURO even shows it in almost the same place as Bertha in 240 hours..Will be interesting
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#17 Postby KWT » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:03 am

Indeed Meso it is quite like Bertha really. to think if we were to get another Cape Verde system develop then tht will be the 2nd in July, that really would suggest a very active CV season could occur this season. We will see!
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#18 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:22 am

Impressive the curvature seen.Its west of Nigeria and over Ghana.

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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#19 Postby johngaltfla » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:39 am

I hate to say this, but my guesstimate of 21 named storms may not seem so far-fetched now..... :eek:
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Re: Strong Wave inside Africa=Global Models show development

#20 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:42 am

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