2012: ACE - ATL = 126.53 ; EPAC = 98.2475 ; WPAC= 303.983

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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 94.52 ; EPAC = 85.7475 ; WPAC 160.57

#41 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:22 am

Updated ACE numbers as of 11 AM Advisory on Nadine.

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14L (Nadine)
 
Operational
 
21.0625

North Atlantic Total

94.52
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 80.4675 ; EPAC = 71.6475 ; WPAC 160.57

#42 Postby jinftl » Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:27 am

Nadine is the ACE gift that keeps on giving....Atlantic total now up to 94.5 as of this morning. Nadine will probably get the seasonal total very close to, if not past, 100. That would make the 2012 season from an ACE-perspective average...even if we have no other storms (average annual ACE in Atlantic from 1950 to 2009 is 101.6).

2012's ACE to date compared to total annual ACE for prior seasons of late:

2005 - 248
2004 - 225
1998 - 182
1999 - 177
2003 - 175
1996 - 166
2010 - 165
2008 - 144
2011 - 121
2000 - 116
2001 - 106
2012 so far - 94
2006 - 79
2007 - 72
2002 - 65
2009 - 51
1997 - 40
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 94.52 ; EPAC = 85.7475 ; WPAC 160.57

#43 Postby euro6208 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:37 am

UPDATED:

Wpac ACE now up to 223.222 thanks to jelawat which produced a whopping 44.8825.....
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#44 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:26 pm

What is the record for ACE by a single Atlantic storm that failed to get past Cat 1?
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 94.52 ; EPAC = 85.7475 ; WPAC 223.222

#45 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:11 pm

The North Atlantic ACE units reached the 100 mark thanks to Nadine and the brief Oscar.

100.065

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2012_ ... /ACE_calcs
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 107.7325 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 223.222

#46 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:25 pm

The updated ACE totals for both the North Atlantic (107.7325) and EPAC (95.2375) after the last advisories of Rafael and Paul.
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 107.7325 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 223.222

#47 Postby euro6208 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:51 am

Western Pacific up to


257.132



Prapiroon 22.1225
Maria 3.845
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 107.7325 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 257.132

#48 Postby cycloneye » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:23 am

Sandy ACE as of Sundays 5 AM advisory is 10.0225. Now the North Atlantic total is up to 118.9275.
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 121.3975 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 257.132

#49 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:39 pm

Sandy got 12.4925 units and the North Atlantic has in total units 121.3975.
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 121.3975 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 257.132

#50 Postby euro6208 » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:45 pm

Son-Tinh contributed 9.9575

Season now up to 267.09
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 121.3975 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 267.09

#51 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:43 pm

I still think that 2012 will have the dubious award of the lowest ACE per storm though.

But we will remember it because of Issac and Sandy.
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 121.3975 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 267.09

#52 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:07 pm

OuterBanker wrote:I still think that 2012 will have the dubious award of the lowest ACE per storm though.

But we will remember it because of Issac and Sandy.


Here is the complete list.

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Season total
 


Storm
 
Type
 
ACE (104 kt2)
 


01L (Alberto)
 
Operational
 
1.3750
 


02L (Beryl)
 
Operational
 
0.8650
 


03L (Chris)
 
Operational
 
2.7200
 


04L (Debby)
 
Operational
 
2.4450
 


05L (Ernesto)
 
Operational
 
7.7050
 


06L (Florence)
 
Best Track
 
1.5125
 


07L (Helene)
 
Operational
 
0.2450
 


08L (Gordon)
 
Operational
 
8.1900
 


09L (Isaac)
 
Operational
 
9.4725
 


10L (Joyce)
 
Operational
 
0.2450
 


11L (Kirk)
 
Operational
 
7.5100
 


12L (Leslie)
 
Operational
 
14.7500
 


13L (Michael)
 
Operational
 
16.4975
 


14L (Nadine)
 
Operational
 
25.6375
 


15L (Oscar)
 
Operational
 
0.9700
 


16L (Patty)
 
Operational
 
0.5275
 


17L (Rafael)
 
Operational
 
7.1400
 


18L (Sandy)
 
Operational
 
12.4925
 


19L (Tony)
 
Operational
 
1.1725
 


Total
 

121.4725
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#53 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:32 pm

Leslie's and Michael's ace was nearly half the season and a total waste. It will skew the rest of the season's ace. We will not remember that as time goes by and they will give a wrong impression on the year. Proof that we should not judge a year based on the ACE index.
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 121.4725 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 267.09

#54 Postby JtSmarts » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:47 pm

Did 2012 surpass 2011's ACE?
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 121.4725 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 267.09

#55 Postby cycloneye » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:51 pm

JtSmarts wrote:Did 2012 surpass 2011's ACE?


Yes. 120.9525
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#56 Postby Florida1118 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:55 pm

OuterBanker wrote:Leslie's and Michael's ace was nearly half the season and a total waste. It will skew the rest of the season's ace. We will not remember that as time goes by and they will give a wrong impression on the year. Proof that we should not judge a year based on the ACE index.

And, your method would be...? So what if they cause half the season's ACE.
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 121.4725 ; EPAC = 98.2375 ; WPAC 267.09

#57 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:47 pm

CrazyC83, I saw at Weatherunderground some people talking about about counting ACE for Subtropical systems in the future. I dont favor that.
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 121.4725 ; EPAC = 98.2375 ; WPAC 267.09

#58 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:57 pm

cycloneye wrote:CrazyC83, I saw at Weatherunderground some people talking about about counting ACE for Subtropical systems in the future. I dont favor that.


That would actually be better IMO, since a lot of pre-satellite era storms are listed as tropical storms in HURDAT when they were likely subtropical in nature. However, they only classify them as tropical because they have no satellites to prove the structure. The earliest subtropical cyclones in HURDAT are from the mid-1960s.

If Sandy had made landfall before the satellite era (and the death toll would surely be deep in the thousands in that case), it would likely have been considered a hurricane at landfall with no satellites to show its interaction with the front.
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 122.975 ; EPAC = 98.2375 ; WPAC 267.09

#59 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:18 pm

The ACE numbers for the North Atlantic increased a little bit after the post season report of TS Florence came out. Is now at 122.975 units. We will see as the reports are released some changes up and down.
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Re: 2012: ACE - ATL = 121.4725 ; EPAC = 95.2375 ; WPAC 267.09

#60 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:42 pm

cycloneye wrote:
JtSmarts wrote:Did 2012 surpass 2011's ACE?


Yes. 120.9525

Well...it did for a while. But after going back and adding in the ACE for subtropical cyclones, the final 2011 ACE is 125.6325 units. The current ACE for 2012 stands just shy of 123 units.
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