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Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#1 Postby hurricanes1234 » Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:59 pm

Was there ever a time between 1997 and now in the eastern north Pacific when two major hurricanes were active simultaneously? For example, two hurricanes that were Category 3s, 4s or 5s at the same time, like Igor and Julia in 2010 (though these were in the Atlantic). Thanks!
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#2 Postby stormkite » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:51 am

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Re: Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#3 Postby AJC3 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:17 am

While this straddles the EPAC/CPAC areas of forecast responsibility, I found this after looking for a few minutes...

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/e_p ... /track.dat
http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/e_p ... /track.dat

2005
JOVA 15.60 -143.10 09/19/11Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
KENNETH 13.40 -130.50 09/19/15Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3

As you can see in the data, and in the following two images, Kenneth was already past peak and weakening, while Jova was intensifying.

KENNETH
11 13.60 -125.80 09/17/09Z 110 960 HURRICANE-3
12 13.70 -126.60 09/17/15Z 105 952 HURRICANE-3
13 14.00 -127.50 09/17/21Z 105 960 HURRICANE-3
14 14.20 -128.20 09/18/03Z 105 960 HURRICANE-3
15 14.30 -128.80 09/18/09Z 105 960 HURRICANE-3
16 14.30 -129.40 09/18/15Z 115 948 HURRICANE-4
17 14.30 -129.80 09/18/21Z 115 948 HURRICANE-4
18 14.10 -130.40 09/19/03Z 115 948 HURRICANE-4
19 13.70 -130.50 09/19/09Z 110 954 HURRICANE-3
20 13.40 -130.50 09/19/15Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
21 13.40 -130.50 09/19/21Z 90 970 HURRICANE-2
22 13.60 -130.90 09/20/03Z 80 979 HURRICANE-1
23 13.60 -131.10 09/20/09Z 75 979 HURRICANE-1


JOVA
27 14.10 -140.80 09/18/05Z 90 970 HURRICANE-2
28 14.10 -141.20 09/18/11Z 90 970 HURRICANE-2
29 14.60 -141.50 09/18/17Z 90 970 HURRICANE-2
30 14.90 -142.40 09/19/09Z 90 970 HURRICANE-2
31 15.40 -142.50 09/19/05Z 90 970 HURRICANE-2
32 15.60 -143.10 09/19/11Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
33 16.20 -143.50 09/19/17Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3

34 16.40 -144.10 09/19/23Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
35 16.60 -144.90 09/20/05Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
36 16.70 -145.30 09/20/11Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
37 17.10 -145.80 09/20/17Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
38 17.30 -146.30 09/20/23Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
39 17.60 -146.70 09/21/05Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
40 17.90 -147.20 09/21/11Z 100 960 HURRICANE-3
41 18.40 -147.50 09/21/17Z 100 970 HURRICANE-3

In these images, Jova is on the far left. Kenneth is in the middle, and Max is to the right...

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#4 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:39 am

Thanks everyone! :D
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Re: Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#5 Postby Hurricanehink » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:45 pm

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=44469

On June 25, 2010, Hurricanes Celia and Darby were active. Celia weakened from its peak as a Category 5 hurricane, but was still a major, and Darby had just become a major.
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#6 Postby hurricanes1234 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 5:05 am

Thanks Hurricanehink! :)
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Re: Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#7 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:26 pm

Also, Ioke and Illeana in 2006 IIRC.

Don't know why you restricted yourself towards post-1997.
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Re: Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#8 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:05 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Also, Ioke and Illeana in 2006 IIRC.

Don't know why you restricted yourself towards post-1997.


I was using the NRL Monterrey Website which only displays as far back as 1997. :wink:
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Re: Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#9 Postby Hurricanehink » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:51 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Also, Ioke and Illeana in 2006 IIRC.

Don't know why you restricted yourself towards post-1997.


Nah, Ioke dropped to a Category 2 briefly when Ileana became a major.
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Re: Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#10 Postby supercane4867 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:17 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:Don't know why you restricted yourself towards post-1997.

Talking about pre-1997, Kenneth and Lidia in 1993 both attained peak intensities of 130kt at the same time

Should be the strongest Simultaneous Hurricanes ever recorded

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#11 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:42 pm

What about Iniki which was CPAC and Andrew in 1992, both were cat 4 at the same time and the fact that it was the CPAC and Atlantic having a cat 4 at the same time has to be some kind of historical significance
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#12 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:19 pm

Thanks! I think it would be very interesting if we get two Category 5s at the same time in the same basin. Especially if they are open water fishes in the EPAC, oh! It doesn't get more interesting than that.
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#13 Postby AJC3 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:19 am

hurricanes1234 wrote:Thanks! I think it would be very interesting if we get two Category 5s at the same time in the same basin. Especially if they are open water fishes in the EPAC, oh! It doesn't get more interesting than that.


Well, if you're talking about just the same basin, I don't know if SuperTYs with the intensity of Ivan (155kt) and Joan (160kt) from 1997 had ever simultaneously existed before (they hadn't since reliable analysis tools or satellite existed), or will ever be seen, in such close proximity, again in my lifetime.

Date: 13-24 OCT 1997
Super Typhoon IVAN
ADV LAT LON TIME WIND PR STAT
15 14.60 133.10 10/16/18Z 115 - TYPHOON-4
16 14.70 131.60 10/17/00Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
17 14.70 130.40 10/17/06Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
18 14.40 129.60 10/17/12Z 155 - TYPHOON-5
19 14.60 128.30 10/17/18Z 160 - TYPHOON-5
20 14.90 127.30 10/18/00Z 150 - TYPHOON-5
21 15.20 126.30 10/18/06Z 145 - TYPHOON-5
21A 15.20 126.30 10/18/06Z 145 - TYPHOON-5
22 15.60 125.30 10/18/12Z 145 - TYPHOON-5
23 16.00 124.60 10/18/18Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
24 16.60 124.20 10/19/00Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
25 17.20 123.40 10/19/06Z 135 - TYPHOON-5
26 17.60 122.70 10/19/12Z 130 - TYPHOON-4
27 18.00 122.40 10/19/18Z 120 - TYPHOON-4


Date: 13-24 OCT 1997
Super Typhoon JOAN
ADV LAT LON TIME WIND PR STAT
15 13.80 153.40 10/16/18Z 125 - TYPHOON-4
16 14.10 151.60 10/17/00Z 125 - TYPHOON-4
17 14.40 150.00 10/17/06Z 155 - TYPHOON-5
18 14.80 148.80 10/17/12Z 160 - TYPHOON-5
19 15.30 147.10 10/17/18Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
20 16.00 145.70 10/18/00Z 135 - TYPHOON-5
21 16.50 144.30 10/18/06Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
21A 16.50 144.30 10/18/06Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
22 17.10 143.10 10/18/12Z 150 - TYPHOON-5
22A 17.10 143.10 10/18/12Z 150 - TYPHOON-5
23 17.70 141.80 10/18/18Z 145 - TYPHOON-5
24 18.10 140.70 10/19/00Z 145 - TYPHOON-5
25 18.50 139.80 10/19/06Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
26 19.00 138.80 10/19/12Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
27 19.50 138.00 10/19/18Z 140 - TYPHOON-5
28 20.10 137.50 10/20/00Z 140 - TYPHOON-5


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#14 Postby hurricanes1234 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:22 am

Wow! That's absolutely stunning. The WPAC always comes in front of every other basin when it comes to strength and records!
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Re: Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#15 Postby euro6208 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:30 am

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Another view of twin Category 5 Ivan and Joan. Both systems reportedly reached a dvorak number of 8.0.

Gives you an idea what a strong el nino can bring to our area and were part of 10 category 5 that year.
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#16 Postby hurricanes1234 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:03 pm

Good thing we got this in recent times, or else we would have no images! :) I can't imagine what it would be like to have a season with 10 Category 5s in my lifetime. :eek:
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#17 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:03 am

Typhoon Bonanza...
"The 1987 triplets"

From left to right of the image. winds are at 10 min ave. by JMA
Typhoon Gerald - 950 hPa / 80 kt
Typhoon Freda - 940 hPa / 85 kt
Typhoon Holly - 900 hPa / 110 kt

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#18 Postby hurricanes1234 » Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:27 pm

Thanks very much to all those who have contributed and who may do so in the future. It is much appreciated! :D
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Re: Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#19 Postby Ptarmigan » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:10 pm

I notice simultaneous major hurricanes in the Pacific occur during warm Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO). 1993 was Neutral ENSO bordering into El Nino.
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Re: Simultaneous Major Hurricanes

#20 Postby euro6208 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:53 am

mrbagyo wrote:Typhoon Bonanza...
"The 1987 triplets"

From left to right of the image. winds are at 10 min ave. by JMA
Typhoon Gerald - 950 hPa / 80 kt
Typhoon Freda - 940 hPa / 85 kt
Typhoon Holly - 900 hPa / 110 kt



Keep up with the flow in 1 min...

Typhoon Gerald 105 knots
Typhoon Freda 125 knots
Super Typhoon Holly 140 knots...

That's 3 Major Hurricanes...
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