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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up today at 11 AM EDT

#221 Postby wxman57 » Thu May 22, 2014 8:06 am

The UK Met Office has issued it's forecast. 7-13 named storms, 3-9 hurricanes. Quite a big range. See page 1...
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up shortly

#222 Postby cycloneye » Thu May 22, 2014 10:21 am

NOAA=8-13
3-6
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA=8-13 named storms/3-6 h/1-2 Majors

#223 Postby cycloneye » Thu May 22, 2014 10:35 am

Image See text at first post.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up today at 11 AM EDT

#224 Postby RL3AO » Thu May 22, 2014 11:00 am

wxman57 wrote:The UK Met Office has issued it's forecast. 7-13 named storms, 3-9 hurricanes. Quite a big range. See page 1...


So 7 tropical storms and 9 hurricanes would actually be a correct forecast. Cool.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA is up (See first post)

#225 Postby cycloneye » Thu May 22, 2014 11:09 am

Below is an excerpt of the May NOAA forecast that has a caveat about the May forecast:

Uncertainties in the outlook are related to the timing and strength of El Niño, and to a limited confidence in model forecasts for Atlantic SST anomalies. Therefore, there is uncertainty in the extent to which these factors will suppress the warm phase of the AMO and tropical multi-decadal signal.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up today at 11 AM EDT

#226 Postby WeatherGuesser » Thu May 22, 2014 11:15 am

RL3AO wrote:
wxman57 wrote:The UK Met Office has issued it's forecast. 7-13 named storms, 3-9 hurricanes. Quite a big range. See page 1...


So 7 tropical storms and 9 hurricanes would actually be a correct forecast. Cool.


AKA 'we just want to cover all possibilities'
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA is up (See first post)

#227 Postby cycloneye » Thu May 22, 2014 1:15 pm

Dr Jeff Masters discuss about how a quiet season may be bad.

Quiet hurricane seasons with below-average activity can still produce major hurricanes that cause massive devastation. The five seasons that CSU lists as analogue years for 2014 produced five hurricanes that had their names retired, including one that killed 8,000 people in Cuba (Flora of 1963) and one that killed over 400 people in Texas and Louisiana (Audrey of 1957.) Even if an El Niño does develop this year, that doesn't mean it will be a quiet season. Recall the El Niño year of 2004, when four major hurricanes pounded the U.S.--Ivan, Charlie, Jeanne, and Frances. Those of you in Hurricane Alley should prepare for the 2014 season the same way you would for a predicted hyperactive season, and be ready for the Storm of the Century to hit your location.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA is up (See first post)

#228 Postby WeatherGuesser » Thu May 22, 2014 2:00 pm

cycloneye wrote:Quiet hurricane seasons with below-average activity ...


That's why I don't understand all the fuss and hub-bub, contests and all over numbers. It only takes one.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up today at 11 AM EDT

#229 Postby Macrocane » Fri May 23, 2014 11:50 am

RL3AO wrote:
wxman57 wrote:The UK Met Office has issued it's forecast. 7-13 named storms, 3-9 hurricanes. Quite a big range. See page 1...


So 7 tropical storms and 9 hurricanes would actually be a correct forecast. Cool.


No, that's not how those probabilities work.
Lower range of tropical storms corresponds with the lower range of hurricanes, and high end with high end.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up shortly

#230 Postby Cyclenall » Fri May 23, 2014 5:43 pm

cycloneye wrote:NOAA=8-13
3-6
1-2

I have to strongly disagree with NOAA's Atlantic Hurricane season forecast, won't be that "good". Bold call to say 40% chance of normal activity and 10% chance above normal? More like 0.0000001% :lol: .

WeatherGuesser wrote:That's why I don't understand all the fuss and hub-bub, contests and all over numbers. It only takes one.

Well everyone else understands and it has nothing to do with how prepared those who are at risk with tropical cyclone hazards should be.
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Do you think the ATL season will be as predicted or surprisi

#231 Postby meriland23 » Sun May 25, 2014 10:04 pm

Most seasons I have a rough guesstimate depending on a lot of factors including El Nino/La Nina.. but a lot of those times I am taken by surprise by it having more or less than anticipated. Do you feel it will be as predicted (lower than usual) or surprising this year? IYO.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA is up (See first post)

#232 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon May 26, 2014 10:14 am

cycloneye wrote:Dr Jeff Masters discuss about how a quiet season may be bad.

Quiet hurricane seasons with below-average activity can still produce major hurricanes that cause massive devastation. The five seasons that CSU lists as analogue years for 2014 produced five hurricanes that had their names retired, including one that killed 8,000 people in Cuba (Flora of 1963) and one that killed over 400 people in Texas and Louisiana (Audrey of 1957.) Even if an El Niño does develop this year, that doesn't mean it will be a quiet season. Recall the El Niño year of 2004, when four major hurricanes pounded the U.S.--Ivan, Charlie, Jeanne, and Frances. Those of you in Hurricane Alley should prepare for the 2014 season the same way you would for a predicted hyperactive season, and be ready for the Storm of the Century to hit your location.


When he wrote this he somehow forgot 1965 Betsy in his examples probably an oversight
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2014 N Atl hurr season (See first post)

#233 Postby cycloneye » Mon May 26, 2014 2:43 pm

Here is a video by Levi Cowan about what may occur during the first week of June in Western Caribbean/SEGOM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy4ygGwBpzI
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-- Expert forecasts for 2014 N Atl hurr season (See first post)

#234 Postby ninel conde » Thu May 29, 2014 6:09 am

JB says the active period is coming to an end but the east coast is at peril.

http://patriotpost.us/opinion/26136

personally, i see no peril this year.
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Re: Expert forecasts=FSU forecast is up at first post

#235 Postby cycloneye » Thu May 29, 2014 8:12 pm

FSU forecast is up at first post
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Re: Expert forecasts=FSU forecast is up at first post

#236 Postby blp » Fri May 30, 2014 10:45 am

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Re: Expert forecasts: CSU will be up around 11 AM EDT

#237 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:41 pm

The June update by the CSU folks (Klotzbach/Gray) will be released on Monday around 11 AM EDT so stay tuned.
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Re: Expert forecasts=FSU forecast is up at first post

#238 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:13 pm

blp wrote:Quite amazing the drought we are in for majors. Look at this graphic in terms of days:

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Main Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/05/30/atlantic-hurricane-season-begins-sunday-will-record-streak-without-major-hurricane-end/

This streak, believe it or not, is not the longest in recorded history. There were 3,313 days between major hurricane landfalls from 1860 to 1869.
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Re: Expert forecasts=FSU forecast is up at first post

#239 Postby ninel conde » Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:17 am

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:
blp wrote:Quite amazing the drought we are in for majors. Look at this graphic in terms of days:

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Main Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/05/30/atlantic-hurricane-season-begins-sunday-will-record-streak-without-major-hurricane-end/

This streak, believe it or not, is not the longest in recorded history. There were 3,313 days between major hurricane landfalls from 1860 to 1869.


that should be broken by this time next season and its hard to say if 1860-1869 is all that accurate. it seems a very strong nw flow is setting up for hurricane season, even stronger than last season. will there ever again be a year without dominant nw flow?
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Re: Expert forecasts: CSU is up at first post (10/4/1)

#240 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:17 am

Klotzbach/Gray updated their forecast and increased slightly the number of named storms and hurricanes.Read it at first post.
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