Expert forecasts for 2014 N Atl Hurricane season
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up today at 11 AM EDT
The UK Met Office has issued it's forecast. 7-13 named storms, 3-9 hurricanes. Quite a big range. See page 1...
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up shortly
NOAA=8-13
3-6
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA=8-13 named storms/3-6 h/1-2 Majors
See text at first post.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up today at 11 AM EDT
wxman57 wrote:The UK Met Office has issued it's forecast. 7-13 named storms, 3-9 hurricanes. Quite a big range. See page 1...
So 7 tropical storms and 9 hurricanes would actually be a correct forecast. Cool.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA is up (See first post)
Below is an excerpt of the May NOAA forecast that has a caveat about the May forecast:
Uncertainties in the outlook are related to the timing and strength of El Niño, and to a limited confidence in model forecasts for Atlantic SST anomalies. Therefore, there is uncertainty in the extent to which these factors will suppress the warm phase of the AMO and tropical multi-decadal signal.
Uncertainties in the outlook are related to the timing and strength of El Niño, and to a limited confidence in model forecasts for Atlantic SST anomalies. Therefore, there is uncertainty in the extent to which these factors will suppress the warm phase of the AMO and tropical multi-decadal signal.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up today at 11 AM EDT
RL3AO wrote:wxman57 wrote:The UK Met Office has issued it's forecast. 7-13 named storms, 3-9 hurricanes. Quite a big range. See page 1...
So 7 tropical storms and 9 hurricanes would actually be a correct forecast. Cool.
AKA 'we just want to cover all possibilities'
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA is up (See first post)
Dr Jeff Masters discuss about how a quiet season may be bad.
Quiet hurricane seasons with below-average activity can still produce major hurricanes that cause massive devastation. The five seasons that CSU lists as analogue years for 2014 produced five hurricanes that had their names retired, including one that killed 8,000 people in Cuba (Flora of 1963) and one that killed over 400 people in Texas and Louisiana (Audrey of 1957.) Even if an El Niño does develop this year, that doesn't mean it will be a quiet season. Recall the El Niño year of 2004, when four major hurricanes pounded the U.S.--Ivan, Charlie, Jeanne, and Frances. Those of you in Hurricane Alley should prepare for the 2014 season the same way you would for a predicted hyperactive season, and be ready for the Storm of the Century to hit your location.
Quiet hurricane seasons with below-average activity can still produce major hurricanes that cause massive devastation. The five seasons that CSU lists as analogue years for 2014 produced five hurricanes that had their names retired, including one that killed 8,000 people in Cuba (Flora of 1963) and one that killed over 400 people in Texas and Louisiana (Audrey of 1957.) Even if an El Niño does develop this year, that doesn't mean it will be a quiet season. Recall the El Niño year of 2004, when four major hurricanes pounded the U.S.--Ivan, Charlie, Jeanne, and Frances. Those of you in Hurricane Alley should prepare for the 2014 season the same way you would for a predicted hyperactive season, and be ready for the Storm of the Century to hit your location.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA is up (See first post)
cycloneye wrote:Quiet hurricane seasons with below-average activity ...
That's why I don't understand all the fuss and hub-bub, contests and all over numbers. It only takes one.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up today at 11 AM EDT
RL3AO wrote:wxman57 wrote:The UK Met Office has issued it's forecast. 7-13 named storms, 3-9 hurricanes. Quite a big range. See page 1...
So 7 tropical storms and 9 hurricanes would actually be a correct forecast. Cool.
No, that's not how those probabilities work.
Lower range of tropical storms corresponds with the lower range of hurricanes, and high end with high end.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA up shortly
cycloneye wrote:NOAA=8-13
3-6
1-2
I have to strongly disagree with NOAA's Atlantic Hurricane season forecast, won't be that "good". Bold call to say 40% chance of normal activity and 10% chance above normal? More like 0.0000001% .
WeatherGuesser wrote:That's why I don't understand all the fuss and hub-bub, contests and all over numbers. It only takes one.
Well everyone else understands and it has nothing to do with how prepared those who are at risk with tropical cyclone hazards should be.
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Do you think the ATL season will be as predicted or surprisi
Most seasons I have a rough guesstimate depending on a lot of factors including El Nino/La Nina.. but a lot of those times I am taken by surprise by it having more or less than anticipated. Do you feel it will be as predicted (lower than usual) or surprising this year? IYO.
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Re: Expert forecasts=NOAA is up (See first post)
cycloneye wrote:Dr Jeff Masters discuss about how a quiet season may be bad.
Quiet hurricane seasons with below-average activity can still produce major hurricanes that cause massive devastation. The five seasons that CSU lists as analogue years for 2014 produced five hurricanes that had their names retired, including one that killed 8,000 people in Cuba (Flora of 1963) and one that killed over 400 people in Texas and Louisiana (Audrey of 1957.) Even if an El Niño does develop this year, that doesn't mean it will be a quiet season. Recall the El Niño year of 2004, when four major hurricanes pounded the U.S.--Ivan, Charlie, Jeanne, and Frances. Those of you in Hurricane Alley should prepare for the 2014 season the same way you would for a predicted hyperactive season, and be ready for the Storm of the Century to hit your location.
When he wrote this he somehow forgot 1965 Betsy in his examples probably an oversight
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Re: Expert forecasts for 2014 N Atl hurr season (See first post)
Here is a video by Levi Cowan about what may occur during the first week of June in Western Caribbean/SEGOM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy4ygGwBpzI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy4ygGwBpzI
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-- Expert forecasts for 2014 N Atl hurr season (See first post)
JB says the active period is coming to an end but the east coast is at peril.
http://patriotpost.us/opinion/26136
personally, i see no peril this year.
http://patriotpost.us/opinion/26136
personally, i see no peril this year.
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Re: Expert forecasts=FSU forecast is up at first post
FSU forecast is up at first post
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Quite amazing the drought we are in for majors. Look at this graphic in terms of days:
Main Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/05/30/atlantic-hurricane-season-begins-sunday-will-record-streak-without-major-hurricane-end/
Main Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/05/30/atlantic-hurricane-season-begins-sunday-will-record-streak-without-major-hurricane-end/
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Re: Expert forecasts: CSU will be up around 11 AM EDT
The June update by the CSU folks (Klotzbach/Gray) will be released on Monday around 11 AM EDT so stay tuned.
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Re: Expert forecasts=FSU forecast is up at first post
blp wrote:Quite amazing the drought we are in for majors. Look at this graphic in terms of days:
Main Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/05/30/atlantic-hurricane-season-begins-sunday-will-record-streak-without-major-hurricane-end/
This streak, believe it or not, is not the longest in recorded history. There were 3,313 days between major hurricane landfalls from 1860 to 1869.
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Re: Expert forecasts=FSU forecast is up at first post
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:blp wrote:Quite amazing the drought we are in for majors. Look at this graphic in terms of days:
Main Article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/05/30/atlantic-hurricane-season-begins-sunday-will-record-streak-without-major-hurricane-end/
This streak, believe it or not, is not the longest in recorded history. There were 3,313 days between major hurricane landfalls from 1860 to 1869.
that should be broken by this time next season and its hard to say if 1860-1869 is all that accurate. it seems a very strong nw flow is setting up for hurricane season, even stronger than last season. will there ever again be a year without dominant nw flow?
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Re: Expert forecasts: CSU is up at first post (10/4/1)
Klotzbach/Gray updated their forecast and increased slightly the number of named storms and hurricanes.Read it at first post.
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