2014: ACE - ATL = 65.1 EPAC = 182.25 WPAC =273.577

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#101 Postby Ntxw » Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:54 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
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Steve820 wrote:The EPac is getting really close to beating the WPac in ACE.


When's the last time the EPAC outdid the WPAC in total ACE for the season?


AFAIK never.


It would be very tough to do. If you look at averages the Pacific Typhoon seasonal ACE is more than double the EPAC, more than the EPAC and Atlantic combined and then some. A 1992 EPAC season or 2005 Atlantic season is still slightly below normal compared to a normal WPAC season. The comparison is just apples to oranges. And the fact that EPAC/WPAC are closely correlated at times when one is busy so is the other due to ENSO.
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#102 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:37 pm

Ntxw wrote:
It would be very tough to do. If you look at averages the Pacific Typhoon seasonal ACE is more than double the EPAC, more than the EPAC and Atlantic combined and then some. A 1992 EPAC season or 2005 Atlantic season is still slightly below normal compared to a normal WPAC season. The comparison is just apples to oranges. And the fact that EPAC/WPAC are closely correlated at times when one is busy so is the other due to ENSO.


1992 EPAC and 2005 ATL are average WPAC season in terms of number of storms and ACE. WPAC is much larger than EPAC and ATL as it has large areas of warm water that is deep. It is because of the Asian continent, which is larger than North America.
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Re: 2014: ACE - ATL = 21.515 EPAC = 126.215; WPAC = 127.942

#103 Postby euro6208 » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:02 am

WPAC 127.942 already falling behind now just 95% of normal of 134...

EPAC experiencing what a normal WPAC season has to offer and not really far behind

I think a sudden spike in activity will occur later this month with a strong MJO pulse traversing over the WPAC. This will separate the WPAC from the rest like always :lol:
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#104 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:23 pm

EPAC ACE should continue to go up within a week. Forecast major hurricane is expected to form by next week.
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#105 Postby Ntxw » Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:00 am

EPAC and WPAC are now neck and neck at 127 ACE units. While the wpac more than likely will finish higher by the end of their season, it is a tribute that any basin can (even if briefly) surpass the wpac this late in the game.
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#106 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:23 am

The EPAC ACE is already slightly above 128, and above the WPAC ACE. Despite that, the WPAC IMO will surely surpass the EPAC
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#107 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:41 pm

EPAC now at 133.2225, which is well ahead of the WPAC. Despite that, the EPAC would fall behind as the models hint on monster typhoons over the latter (WPAC) in the mid-range. Quite probably, the WPAC would get to above-average if this occurs. Impressive ACE for the EPAC, as that is the highest-to-date since 1994 perhaps..
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Re: 2014: ACE - ATL = 21.515 EPAC = 126.215; WPAC = 127.942

#108 Postby Ntxw » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:04 pm

Numbers from Dr. Ryan Maue's site as of 9/7/2014. EPAC carried most of the gains the past week with Norbert bringing this basin to equal it's annual average total. Little change in other basins. WPAC remains unusually slow, Atlantic remains the lowest of the big three.
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N. Hemisphere: 291.3250 [Normal: 288 - 101% of normal]

Western Pacific: 128.97 [Normal: 147 - 87% of normal]

North Atlantic: 20.4775 [Normal: 46 - 44% of normal] *value was revised last week a little less

Eastern Pacific: 137.47 [Normal: 87 - 158% of normal]

North Indian: 4.4075 [Normal: 7 - 62% of normal]



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#109 Postby Ntxw » Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:48 pm

EPAC is about to rack up some heavy points again (what's new?). It's looking increasingly likely 94E could become a very intense cyclone. 2006 better get nervous, it's next in line after 1971 which will be surpassed this week. After that it's the pair of Super Nino's 1997, 1982.
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#110 Postby hurricanes1234 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:40 am

WPAC, you have been surpassed!!! :grrr:
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#111 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:00 am

hurricanes1234 wrote:WPAC, you have been surpassed!!! :grrr:

So, what? The WPAC actually gives us surprises, and would explode in activity. There is still much time, the WPAC season runs all-year round, and we can have it surpass the EPAC! :P
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#112 Postby Siker » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:24 am

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
hurricanes1234 wrote:WPAC, you have been surpassed!!! :grrr:

So, what? The WPAC actually gives us surprises, and would explode in activity. There is still much time, the WPAC season runs all-year round, and we can have it surpass the EPAC! :P


Booo, go team EPAC! :D
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#113 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:54 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:WPAC, you have been surpassed!!! :grrr:


Not for long. :wink: :lol:
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#114 Postby Alyono » Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:07 am

looks like some Atlantic ACE is coming
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#115 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:05 am

From http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Pacific_hurricane_season

The Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) index for the season as of 03:00 UTC September 12 is 113.3275 units for the East Pacific and 25.5575 units for the Central Pacific.
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#116 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:56 am

hurricanes1234 wrote:From http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Pacific_hurricane_season

The Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) index for the season as of 03:00 UTC September 12 is 113.3275 units for the East Pacific and 25.5575 units for the Central Pacific.


That's 24 hours old BTW.
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Re: 2014: ACE - ATL = 20.4775 EPAC = 137.525; WPAC = 130.04

#117 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Sep 14, 2014 4:49 pm

Latest Atlantic ACE.
24.0625

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If Edouard becomes a Category 3 hurricane, ACE will add up.
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Re: 2014: ACE - ATL = 30.4625 EPAC = 150.155 WPAC = 138.705

#118 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:02 am

The updated ACE numbers show the North Atlantic reaching 30+ units.EPAC continues to rack up units.
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#119 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:15 am

Impressed by the activity of the East Pacific.

Year-to-date average is 102, and it is already at 154.25 - well above even the yearly (season total) average!

WPac is still higher than last year to date, at 139.23 and ATL gained a lot because of Edouard - 34.04 is the seasonal total so far
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#120 Postby Cyclenall » Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:54 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:
hurricanes1234 wrote:WPAC, you have been surpassed!!! :grrr:


Not for long. :wink: :lol:

The Epac ACE has been above the Wpac's ACE for weeks now, and there is only a weak-moderate TS ongoing in the Wpac for the next little bit so it could be long. This is very impressive.
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