GFDL & HWRF Model Upgrades

[blp]

I read a very good article today by Dr. Masters about the recent upgrades to HWRF and GFDL. It surprised me to see such improvement year to year. I was one that did not hold those models in high regard but I might need to reconsider for the future.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2724

[tolakram]

I wonder why the euro was left off the Arthur graphs?

It's exciting that can make runs on older data to see how it performs, and I really hope both of these do better in the future, but we've had so little opportunities in the last year to see how these are performing that I can't help but be a bit pessimistic.

[Alyono]

I wonder why the euro was left off the Arthur graphs?

It's exciting that can make runs on older data to see how it performs, and I really hope both of these do better in the future, but we've had so little opportunities in the last year to see how these are performing that I can't help but be a bit pessimistic.

wonder if he does not have access to the full ECMWF including the vortex tracker

[NDG]

I wonder why the euro was left off the Arthur graphs?

It's exciting that can make runs on older data to see how it performs, and I really hope both of these do better in the future, but we've had so little opportunities in the last year to see how these are performing that I can't help but be a bit pessimistic.

The article is about the improvements of GFDL & HWRF, not about which model did the best among all.
Which by the way, I agree that the HWRF did much better with Arthur than the last few years, it still needs to get better though but at least is not horrible, lol.

[xtyphooncyclonex]

HWRF predicted the EPac hurricanes/TS's and Hurricane Arthur excellently, yeah, and I noticed there has been an improvement for the past year or so. So yeah, no wonder that the model just had an upgrade.

[tolakram]

The article is about the improvements of GFDL & HWRF, not about which model did the best among all.
Which by the way, I agree that the HWRF did much better with Arthur than the last few years, it still needs to get better though but at least is not horrible, lol.

My question was about the Arthur graphs that included the GFS and NHC track.

[NDG]

The article is about the improvements of GFDL & HWRF, not about which model did the best among all.
Which by the way, I agree that the HWRF did much better with Arthur than the last few years, it still needs to get better though but at least is not horrible, lol.

My question was about the Arthur graphs that included the GFS and NHC track.

Oh, OK, I see your point now.
I am sure if the Euro would had been included it would had been the model with the least error.

[tolakram]

Oh, OK, I see your point now.
I am sure if the Euro would had been included it would had been the model with the least error.

Well I don't know that, which is why I want to see it. The last graph I looked at with model comparisons showed that each model tended to have a zone of accuracy and I thought that was very interesting.

I found the entry.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMa ... rynum=2482

[NDG]

Yes, I remember 2012, that's the year that the GFS did better than the Euro overall, the Euro was very west biased that year, IMO.