Area of Disturbed Weather Near Panama

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Area of Disturbed Weather Near Panama

#1 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:07 pm

The GFS has been on this for about a week and it seems as though that the other models including the Euro are coming aboard so lets see what happens as the Euro ensembles are very much a threat to Cuba, Florida and possibly up the eastern seaboard and there is currently some disturbed weather north and south of Panama and I could believe that initialization of development may come from a festering of this disturbed weather and the tropical wave in the lesser antilles so it may be something to keep an eye on while we watch the players on the field

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/avn-l.jpg

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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#2 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:10 pm

we need see if dont move west into central America
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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#3 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 1:41 pm

Just a very weak wave that's already moved into the East Pacific.
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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#4 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:19 pm

wxman57 wrote:Just a very weak wave that's already moved into the East Pacific.

how cold be East Pacific if it east leedward you got wrong wave one talking about
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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#5 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 2:44 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Just a very weak wave that's already moved into the East Pacific.

how cold be East Pacific if it east leedward you got wrong wave one talking about


The thread title says "area of disturbed weather near Panama", not "near Leeward Islands". Regardless, neither will be developing.
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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#6 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 3:32 pm

wxman57 wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Just a very weak wave that's already moved into the East Pacific.

how cold be East Pacific if it east leedward you got wrong wave one talking about


The thread title says "area of disturbed weather near Panama", not "near Leeward Islands". Regardless, neither will be developing.

here what he say development may come from a festering of this disturbed weather and the tropical wave in the lesser antilles so it may be something to keep an eye on while we watch the players on the field
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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#7 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:48 am

floridasun78 wrote:here what he say development may come from a festering of this disturbed weather and the tropical wave in the lesser antilles so it may be something to keep an eye on while we watch the players on the field


yes and its still there festering and all the models except the Euro and even that model is lowering pressures are saying that the wave in the Eastern Caribbean and this area combine and become something so while theres too much shear for it to do something now but the tropical wave to is expected according to the models to inject a lot of moisture into the festering area near Panama and become a low so it really is something to watch especially for Cuba and Florida and possibly up the East Coast in the long run

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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#8 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 1:54 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:here what he say development may come from a festering of this disturbed weather and the tropical wave in the lesser antilles so it may be something to keep an eye on while we watch the players on the field


yes and its still there festering and all the models except the Euro and even that model is lowering pressures are saying that the wave in the Eastern Caribbean and this area combine and become something so while theres too much shear for it to do something now but the tropical wave to is expected according to the models to inject a lot of moisture into the festering area near Panama and become a low so it really is something to watch especially for Cuba and Florida and possibly up the East Coast in the long run

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i wrote that to wxman he didnt understand your post what i see
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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#9 Postby wyq614 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:02 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:here what he say development may come from a festering of this disturbed weather and the tropical wave in the lesser antilles so it may be something to keep an eye on while we watch the players on the field


yes and its still there festering and all the models except the Euro and even that model is lowering pressures are saying that the wave in the Eastern Caribbean and this area combine and become something so while theres too much shear for it to do something now but the tropical wave to is expected according to the models to inject a lot of moisture into the festering area near Panama and become a low so it really is something to watch especially for Cuba and Florida and possibly up the East Coast in the long run

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I'll be watching it and I believe something will come up in SW Carib this month.
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#10 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:35 am

This area is still percolating but has little model support except from the GFS which means I'll keep an eye on it but expect little to no development from this system

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#11 Postby gatorcane » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:48 am

06Z GFS simulated IR shows this area of convection expanding across the SW Caribbean in as little as 72 hours from now. I believe there is a tropical wave in the vicinity that could enhance the convection in the next few days. We shall see:

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#12 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:12 am

Looks as though something is starting at about 12N 78W but my eyes could be playing tricks
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#13 Postby wxman57 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:28 am

Hurricaneman wrote:Looks as though something is starting at about 12N 78W but my eyes could be playing tricks


I see a weak tropical wave moving rapidly westward around 78W, but no evidence of rotation. According to the 06Z GFS, a TD will form within 72 hours in the SW Caribbean. We'll see about that. I don't see any feature to focus on yet.
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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#14 Postby NDG » Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:56 am

Shear above the 10th latitude in the southern Caribbean is decapitating anything that would try to form, and if you believe the GFS's forecast of lowering shear in the Caribbean past its 72 hr forecast you are nuts :)
The Euro's version of development in the EPAC side of C.A. sounds more logical to me, IMO.
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#15 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:56 am

12Z GEM now in line with the GFS in showing development of this area and for it to lift northward into the NW Caribbean and SE GOM: :eek:

NHC should mention the SW Caribbean in the next TWO in my opinion.

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#16 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:03 pm

Here is how the 12Z GEM run ends with a intensifying hurricane moving slowly northward in the SE GOM:

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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#17 Postby Sanibel » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:43 pm

Visible loop shows zero down there except for some weak convection mostly based off the Pacific. There's nothing indicating any potential formation and the Caribbean is typically hostile like it's been all summer.
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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#18 Postby ronjon » Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:56 pm

Sanibel wrote:Visible loop shows zero down there except for some weak convection mostly based off the Pacific. There's nothing indicating any potential formation and the Caribbean is typically hostile like it's been all summer.


Not sure what you're looking at Sanibel, but there are only two clusters of heavy convection in the western atlantic basin - one in the GOM and one in the SW caribbean on either side of Panama.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/flash-avn.html
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Re: area of disturbed weather near Panama

#19 Postby StarmanHDB » Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:22 pm

ronjon wrote:
Sanibel wrote:Visible loop shows zero down there except for some weak convection mostly based off the Pacific. There's nothing indicating any potential formation and the Caribbean is typically hostile like it's been all summer.


Not sure what you're looking at Sanibel, but there are only two clusters of heavy convection in the western atlantic basin - one in the GOM and one in the SW caribbean on either side of Panama.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/flash-avn.html


I have to agree with Sanibel. Not much going on down there (yet?) other than cloudiness and some unsustained convection. Despite these facts, I am sticking to my guns about a TC forming down there sometime very soon. We shall see.
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#20 Postby gatorcane » Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:37 pm

Convection on the increase. Development chances are certainly not 0%. Not really sure why the NHC is reluctant to mention this area given some increased model support. I thought with the GEM joining the GFS, it would be mentioned at least. Even the NAM, though not a good tropical model, has swung towards the GFS over the past several runs.

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