Weak low in NE Gulf of Mexico: (Is Invest 95L)

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Re: Weak low in NE Gulf of Mexico

#541 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:10 pm

ronjon wrote:On tally RAD the low pressure looks to be slowly organizing. I've got two feet above normal tides now with gusty SW winds in Hernando Beach. Neighborhood streets flooded with half a foot of standing water.


Well, based on the appearance of the spiral bands and the structure of the Low center, then Apalachee Bay Low looks the best it has all day as far as I am concerned right now.

There is a lot of energy spiraling away from this system too. I had a squall come through my locale about 90 minutes ago, dropped a quick 2/3 of an inch of rain in less than 10 minutes and recorded a wind gust of 36 mph.
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#542 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:13 pm

C-MAN Station at Keaton Beach now reporting a pressure of 1008mb, which have switched to the ESE.

Wind Direction (WDIR): ENE ( 70 deg true )
5-day plot - Wind Speed Wind Speed (WSPD): 9 kts
5-day plot - Wind Gust Wind Gust (GST): 10 kts
5-day plot - Atmospheric Pressure Atmospheric Pressure (PRES): 29.78 in
5-day plot - Pressure Tendency Pressure Tendency (PTDY): -0.04 in ( Falling )
5-day plot - Air Temperature Air Temperature (ATMP): 81.5 °F
5-day plot - Dew Point Dew Point (DEWP): 76.3 °F
5-day plot - Heat Index Heat Index (HEAT): 88.5 °F
5-day plot - Wind Speed at 10 Meters Wind Speed at 10 meters (WSPD10M): 10 kts
5-day plot - Wind Speed at 10 Meters Wind Speed at 20 meters (WSPD20M): 10 kts
5-day plot - Wind Speed, Wind Gust and Atmospheric Pressure Combined plot of Wind Speed, Gust, and Air Pressure

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/epz/?n=wxcalc_pressureconvert
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#543 Postby psyclone » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:15 pm

There's no doubt this has escalated more than expected. I think a headline for at least minor coastal flooding in warranted north of tarpon springs to the big bend...this area is very prone to water rises with an onshore flow.
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#544 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:15 pm

If you look at the radar it is slowly drifting south almost south west the last few loops. Why is it not moving north yet like predicted?
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#545 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:16 pm

:uarrow: Yeah, with the surface Low center still over water, I can definitely see surface pressures slightly falling with the system.
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#546 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:20 pm

Since the surface circulation has stayed over water all day today, it has allowed for this system to organize a bit better this afternoon imo. Just look at the things I have just mentioned with the structure and the banding.

I would not be surprised to see NHC give this system a longer look this evening. They may even bump up the percentage a bit more in the TWO if the latest trends I am observing continues into the evening. No indications yet also of the expected turn to the northeast of this Low pressure area either at this time.
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Re: Weak low in NE Gulf of Mexico

#547 Postby caneman » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:23 pm

Well. It would seem to me this should be called a t.d..you have a closed low, pressure no down to 1008, wind speeds all along tampa bay at 40 mph, even though they may be gradient induced, waves really kicking up,.major flooding. whY not play it safe?
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#548 Postby caneman » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:30 pm

Here in indian rocks, the water was up to the top of.people's boats ramps and walkways. I agree, if we ever get something more that a high end t.d., moving in that direction, we're screwed.
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Re: Weak low in NE Gulf of Mexico

#549 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:34 pm

i saw pic of flood on facebook real bad i see
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#550 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:36 pm

What is causing this to move almost directly south? NHC said it was moving northeast earlier.
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Re: Weak low in NE Gulf of Mexico

#551 Postby ronjon » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:38 pm

caneman wrote:Well. It would seem to me this should be called a t.d..you have a closed low, pressure no down to 1008, wind speeds all along tampa bay at 40 mph, even though they may be gradient induced, waves really kicking up,.major flooding. whY not play it safe?


Levi Cowan predicted a TD from this yesterday.
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#552 Postby ronjon » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:41 pm

NCSTORMMAN wrote:What is causing this to move almost directly south? NHC said it was moving northeast earlier.


Steering currents are weak. GFS showed the low pressure drifting around the next 12 hours before getting picked up.
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Re: Weak low in NE Gulf of Mexico

#553 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:43 pm

Looks like center is moving east to me, very close to land.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=29&lon=-83&info=vis&zoom=1&width=1000&height=800&quality=92&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=25&mapcolor=gray

Speed up the loop for full effect. Certainly there is banding, even over land.
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#554 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:45 pm

IF it drifts around over water the next 12 hours, this will be classified a TD, or possibly a minimal TS. I have watched this system all day and there definitely has been improvement with the Low. It is taking advantage of its unexpected trek back over water. The weird thing about the motion is that it is moving parallel to the coast of the Big Bend being only no more than 10-15 miles off shore at best. It has been fascinating watching this feature today.
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#555 Postby NCSTORMMAN » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:49 pm

http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx

If you speed up the radar the CoC is clearly moving south the last hour or so. I think the convection blow up in the satellite you shared Tolakram is making it seem east in movement. I could be wrong but radar sure does look to be going directly south.
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Re: Weak low in NE Gulf of Mexico

#556 Postby hurricanedude » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:49 pm

hey jax....would it also take advantage of the waters off the southeast coast if it manages to stay just offshore the Carolinas?
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#557 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:50 pm

Tolakram, still just offshore drifting very slowly S/SE. I still do not see no definitive due east motion just yet.
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Re: Weak low in NE Gulf of Mexico

#558 Postby ronjon » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:52 pm

Yes it's clearly drifting south on RAD. And convection is increasing and wrapping around the center. It's due west of Cross City now and sinking southward.
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Re: Weak low in NE Gulf of Mexico

#559 Postby northjaxpro » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:52 pm

hurricanedude wrote:hey jax....would it also take advantage of the waters off the southeast coast if it manages to stay just offshore the Carolinas?


Yes it can, depending on how far off shore the SE US coast the system can get. If the system can get out to near the Gulf Stream, yes absolutely it can really spin up. Also, shear is a factor of course as well, goes without saying of course.
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#560 Postby caneman » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:53 pm

Can someone.help me out? We have lots of reporting stations with up to 40 mph pressure now down to 29.78 at one bouy. Well defined low. Why is this not being called a t.d. sometimes it seems.if a.model or nhc doesn't forecast it, they are hesitant to call it quickly. Not trying to flame them, it just seems they're slower to pull the trigger. Just my opinion of course and I could be totally wrong.
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