2016 ACE: ATL - 134.7 - EPAC - 191.9 - WPAC - 258.2125

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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 115.252 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 189.44

#261 Postby Alyono » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:43 pm

This year on its own could be explained by the utter collapse of the PDO

But we had an October peak the last 2 years without a significant ramp up in September
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 115.252 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 189.44

#262 Postby Ntxw » Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:52 pm

Hammy wrote:
Alyono wrote:wonder if there has been some sort of climate shift? This is the 3rd straight year where the peak of the season has occurred in October instead of September. It seems like we're going toward a season with more consistent development throughout the year, with a slow build up to early October, then a rapid falloff


Is there any chance this is related to El Nino or at least the warmer tropical E Pacific waters? That's the one thing I can think of that had all three in common.


The summers in the states (that I have noticed here in TX) have extended well into October the past several years with relatively slow, late starts. The displacements of the summers can really be seen going back since 2010
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 115.815 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 190.88

#263 Postby cycloneye » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:02 pm

00z update is up.Atlantic continues to go up fast and WPAC is approaching the 200 mark.
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 115.815 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 190.88

#264 Postby euro6208 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:09 pm

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Just one more monster to put 2016 on par normally...
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 115.252 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 189.44

#265 Postby WeatherGuesser » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:07 am

Ntxw wrote:The summers in the states (that I have noticed here in TX) have extended well into October the past several years with relatively slow, late starts. The displacements of the summers can really be seen going back since 2010


You too huh? I thought it was just me.

WeatherGuesser wrote:I've noted a few times over the last few years that Summer seems to be extending through September and into October. I've seen a number of 80s in October and even a few in November. Meanwhile, Spring seems to be getting delayed with cooler temperatures into March and even April. It's like the calendar is shifting.

Also, there's been talk of some kind of magnetic polar shift that's either due or overdue. Makes me wonder if that could be happening and having some kind of effect.
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 116.455 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 191.982

#266 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:15 am

09z update is up.
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 116.455 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 191.982

#267 Postby Buck » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:30 pm

Why is there such a big discrepancy between the number on here and the number on Wikipedia? Both are updated very frequently... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:2016 ... /ACE_calcs
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 116.455 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 191.982

#268 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:42 pm

because Maue is calculating operational ACE entirely wrong. He should not be using working best track. He should be using regularly scheduled full advisory intensity. His calculations have had several jumps that have not made mathematical sense
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 118.162 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 193.355

#269 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:20 pm

21z update is up.I have noticed that Maue has fixes to the data constantly.Nicole now is forecast to be a major cane so much more ACE will pump the Atlantic.WPAC looks to break really away from EPAC as now TD 24W is poised to be a strong Typhoon and new Invest 94W according to models,will be very strong.
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 118.162 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 193.355

#270 Postby cycloneye » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:49 pm

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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 118.162 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 193.355

#271 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:11 pm

I compute my numbers using working best track and they generally come in lower than Maue's numbers. As of 00Z October 13th, I have 115.6575 units of ACE for the Atlantic and 187.5425 units of ACE for the Western Pacific (no numbers for the EPac right now as I'm still putting that one together). Maue's numbers also seem to jump way ahead and then have to be corrected back for whatever reason.
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 118.162 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 193.355

#272 Postby Hammy » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:21 pm

What is the likelihood of exceeding 133 (2012) and 144 (2008) for the Atlantic before the season is over?
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 118.162 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 193.355

#273 Postby Alyono » Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:32 pm

Hammy wrote:What is the likelihood of exceeding 133 (2012) and 144 (2008) for the Atlantic before the season is over?


depends what happens in the Caribbean. You get a monster, then we are talking a seasonal ACE between 175 and 200
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 118.162 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 193.355

#274 Postby Hurricaneman » Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:09 pm

Hammy wrote:What is the likelihood of exceeding 133 (2012) and 144 (2008) for the Atlantic before the season is over?


Id say its quite possible if the Caribbean system gets going
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 120.588 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 193.778

#275 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:42 am

09z update is up.
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 120.588 - EPAC - 171.3575- WPAC - 193.778

#276 Postby NotoSans » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:13 am

http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Realtime/
Another website that can be used to follow the ACE. I find these numbers more accurate than that provided by Maue.
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 122.7 - EPAC - 171.3575 - WPAC - 192.175

#277 Postby HurricaneRyan » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:50 am

What's the ACE update on Nicole?
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 122.7 - EPAC - 171.3575 - WPAC - 192.175

#278 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:35 pm

HurricaneRyan wrote:What's the ACE update on Nicole?


It has 18.6 ACE units.
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 121.1 - EPAC - 168.4 - WPAC - 181.7

#279 Postby cycloneye » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:44 pm

I am collecting the data from the CSU site instead of the Maue one.
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Re: 2016 ACE: ATL - 121.1 - EPAC - 168.4 - WPAC - 181.7

#280 Postby HurricaneRyan » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:50 pm

Why was the ACE decreased for the Atlantic?
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