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Disturbed weather across Western & NW Caribbean - (Invest 95L is up)

#1 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:46 pm

There has been a very marked increase in convective activity down across the central and south central portions of the Caribbean Sea. There is nothing organized at this time, but looking at the satellite imagery, there is a deep moisture pool deriving down all the way into the EPAC, extending through the Central Caribbean northeast all the way into The Bahamas.

It has the look possibly of another monsoonal gyre developing. I think it could be something to watch the next few days.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Central Caribbean

#2 Postby weathaguyry » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:56 pm

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Re: Disturbed weather across Central Caribbean

#3 Postby AJC3 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:58 pm

northjaxpro wrote:There has been a very marked increase in convective activity down across the central and south central portions of the Caribbean Sea. There is nothing organized at this time, but looking at the satellite imagery, there is a deep moisture pool deriving down all the way into the EPAC, extending through the Central Caribbean northeast all the way into The Bahamas.

It has the look possibly of another monsoonal gyre developing. I think it could be something to watch the next few days.


I noticed what appeared to be a small vortex along the T-wave axis down near 12-13N and 80W moving pretty quickly toward the west. I haven't looked at any model data for the EPAC in several days (sorry - lol), but given the position of the monsoon trough axis on the EPAC side, I'd suspect this might be a candidate for development into the first EPAC TC of the season once the wave axis reaches that side. Any model support for it over in the EPAC at all?
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Re: Disturbed weather across Central Caribbean

#4 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:15 pm

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northjaxpro wrote:There has been a very marked increase in convective activity down across the central and south central portions of the Caribbean Sea. There is nothing organized at this time, but looking at the satellite imagery, there is a deep moisture pool deriving down all the way into the EPAC, extending through the Central Caribbean northeast all the way into The Bahamas.

It has the look possibly of another monsoonal gyre developing. I think it could be something to watch the next few days.


I noticed what appeared to be a small vortex along the T-wave axis down near 12-13N and 80W moving pretty quickly toward the west. I haven't looked at any model data for the EPAC in several days (sorry - lol), but given the position of the monsoon trough axis on the EPAC side, I'd suspect this might be a candidate for development into the first EPAC TC of the season once the wave axis reaches that side. Any model support for it over in the EPAC at all?


The Euro has (or at least was) trying to develop something, but I think it was with an area already along the monsoon trough in the EPAC. GFS had nothing last I checked.

However, the CMC has 4 or 5 storms next week, so this is probably one of them. :lol:
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Re: Disturbed weather across Central Caribbean

#5 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:20 pm

:uarrow: At the current time there is no model support, but there is a lot of vigorous energy down there. I think as the wave axis traverses westward, we may begin to see model support for this feature as time progress. It will likely head into Central America and possibly emerge in the EPAC, where it may develop later. It is definitely an area worth monitoring nonetheless.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Central Caribbean

#6 Postby floridasun78 » Tue Jun 21, 2016 7:42 pm

alot here miami northern part of wave
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Re: Disturbed weather across Central Caribbean

#7 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:03 pm

The tropical wave across the Central Caribbean extends down to the monsoonal trough axis from the EPAC across Panama. WPC/TAFB are indicating pressures in and around the Southwest Caribbean to be around 1012mb. As always with monsoonal troughs, in time we may see small, multiple vortices spin up, but unlikely to see any one area consolidate until the wave axis moves west into the Eastern Pacific, provided if it can sta intact and vigorous, which would likely happen by the latter part of this week.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Central Caribbean

#8 Postby NDG » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:16 pm

This is the tropical wave that the GFS was developing late last week for this weekend and to track towards the gulf coast. At that time the GFS & Euro were forecasting a weakness across the southern US that was to draw this tropical wave NW towards the GOM, but since the weakness is instead being replaced by building ridge, this tropical wave is going to track westward across C.A. into the EPAC.

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Re: Disturbed weather across Central Caribbean

#9 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:26 pm

:uarrow: Pretty much sums it up NDG. I remember seeing that model run you posted just above from several days ago.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Central Caribbean

#10 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:36 pm

00z GFS not showing development.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#11 Postby tropicwatch » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:02 am

Looks like some of the moisture is trying to go more towards the nw Caribbean then C.A.

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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#12 Postby hriverajr » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:09 pm

It's got plenty of strong convection associated with the wave, and is being ventilated by the westward moving TUTT. If this moves far enough north or activity continues to develop on the north end, this may be something to look at. The next 24 hours will tell the tale imo. At any rate something to look at.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#13 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:35 pm

If the convection near 16N, 81W persists the models might develop it for our next invest.
Often the convection dies out after the shear from the TUTT stops providing lift.
With the TUTT migrating west there would be favorable conditions in that area soon.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#14 Postby Steve H. » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:19 pm

Well, it looks fairly impressive to me. I'm keeping an eye on it, model support or not :cheesy:
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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#15 Postby Nimbus » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:28 pm

Looks like a typical westward moving tropical wave experiencing shear from the SW.
The low level Axis looks near -83W to me at 3PM.
Models must think the Shear from that TUTT will continue and prevent development?
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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#16 Postby wxman57 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:50 pm

I see a tropical wave interacting with an upper low (over BoC). Such interactions often result in the flare-up of squalls, as we're seeing. However, there is no model support for development, and it doesn't look very impressive (to me). I'm not concerned about development there - yet. Maybe late next week...
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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#17 Postby hriverajr » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:44 pm

Actually the last few frames of visible satellite show just a bit of a spin in the middle of the mess, probably from an MCV. I still find it a bit interesting.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#18 Postby stormwise » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:29 pm

Some ens runs indercating what looks to be a possible gulf surge at the end of this month.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#19 Postby NDG » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:39 pm

I see a mid level vorticity but nothing but a wave trough at the surface.

Maybe a sign of what is to come over the next few months for the Caribbean and GOM.
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Re: Disturbed weather across Western & SW Caribbean

#20 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:01 pm

One thing I have noticed today is that the TUTT has progressed steadily westward today. Well, the main portion of the tropical wave axis cuts right though Central America south into the Eastern Pacific. It is moving west with the building ridge to the north. This is one of the chief reasons why the models are not jumping on board with any development with this current feature because the axis will move on out into the EPAC by this weekend. Now, I think it may have a chance to develop out in the EPAC by next week.


Next week is the time to watch the Caribbean. Either the GFS is going to come out smelling like a rose of showing a tropical cyclone developing down there, which that model has consistently been doing since last weekend. The other end of the equation is that if nothing comes of it, some of you will be chomping at the bit to ridicule the model. We will see how it shakes down in the coming days.
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