Tropical Wave south of CV Islands (Is INVEST 98L)

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Tropical Wave south of CV Islands (Is INVEST 98L)

#1 Postby Siker » Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:44 pm

The 12z Euro, GFS, and CMC all develop this briefly, with the Euro the most aggressive.

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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#2 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 13, 2016 1:52 pm

Per the latest 12z Euro the wave behind this one may really need to be watched for development.
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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#3 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:43 pm

Just so everybody is clear, I circled the waves of interest.

Pouch 97l is this thread.

The wave further inland over Africa is the wave the Euro is developing heading west in the MDR through 240 hours:

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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#4 Postby Siker » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:32 pm

Models are in good agreement on a vigorous area of vorticity emerging with this wave around ~12N and subsequently merging with another area diving out of the northeast. They then vary in how this interaction moves / broadens the overall low: the GFS and CMC depict a broadening system jumping to the northwest while passing over (or even north of) the Cape Verde Islands, while the Euro depicts a further south / west interaction that forms a weak tropical cyclone (before promptly fizzling out). A more northerly route would result in having to deal with sub-26C SST's and the burst of SAL accompanying this wave.

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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#5 Postby Siker » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:01 pm

18z GFS a little more organized and closer to the Euro in location.
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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#6 Postby blp » Sat Aug 13, 2016 8:55 pm

Probs are up for this. I think NHC will tag this as an invest once it emerges.

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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#7 Postby blp » Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:00 pm

Uncle Sal will not be a problem for this pouch.

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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#8 Postby gatorcane » Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:07 pm

Lets see what the 00z guidance shows, no doubt today's guidance has trended a bit more bullish. If we see the same with overnight guidance, I think the NHC starts to mention this wave for some possible development.
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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#9 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:27 pm

blp wrote:Uncle Sal will not be a problem for this pouch.

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Uncle SAL looks to be retreating hopefully for good!
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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#10 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:30 am

The 0zGFS and 12zEuro both develop this to some degree with the Euro being more gung ho

Edit: what I'm seeing on the euro is the system behind which the GFS tries and does develop in the long range

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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#11 Postby USTropics » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:09 am

Through 72 hours, 00z ECMWF still showing development on this run:

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120 hours, strengthening:

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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#12 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:57 am

NHC still not mentioning this area despite the Euro showing development on consecutive runs within the 120 hour timeframe
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Re: Wave over West Africa (Pouch 17L)

#13 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:20 am

gatorcane wrote:NHC still not mentioning this area despite the Euro showing development on consecutive runs within the 120 hour timeframe


Very surprised they have not highlighted this TW knowing how closely they follow the Euro, maybe because the Euro has been too aggressive at times over the EPAC might be why they are putting less weight on it. But it was correct on Earl and also did fairly well with the system on the northern gulf coast.
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Re: Tropical Wave near 20W (Pouch 17L)

#14 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:41 am

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Re: Tropical Wave near 20W (Pouch 17L)

#15 Postby Kazmit » Sun Aug 14, 2016 7:53 am

Looks like conditions could be conductive for some development, as SAL should not be much of a problem here. I'm surprised the NHC hasn't put a yellow X on this one, but they might soon.
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Re: Tropical Wave near 20W (Pouch 17L)

#16 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:31 am

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Re: Tropical Wave near 20W (Pouch 17L)

#17 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:34 am

cycloneye wrote:http://oi66.tinypic.com/2qav91d.jpg


Very healthy wave. Good chance it could develop.
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Re: Tropical Wave near 20W (Pouch 17L)

#18 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:10 am

Tropical wave near 38W has really cleared out the SAL & moisten up the lower & mid levels ahead of Pouch 17L, so indeed this TW may have a chance to develop.

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Re: Tropical Wave near 20W (Pouch 17L)

#19 Postby Kazmit » Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:21 am

Seems to be the best candidate for Fiona ATM... I Wonder what it will do.
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Re: Tropical Wave near 20W (Pouch 17L)

#20 Postby StormHunter72 » Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:27 am

Looks like the Cape Verde part of the season has begun.
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