Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Is Invest 97L)

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Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Is Invest 97L)

#1 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:21 am

Here we go with the Tropical Wave that models develop down the road in MDR / Caribbean.Let's see what occurs.

P39L
6N, 4E


http://www.met.nps.edu/~mtmontgo/synops ... 092000.txt

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 39L)

#2 Postby Gustywind » Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:55 am

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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 39L)

#3 Postby PTrackerLA » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:26 am

Haven't seen a wave this low in latitude in a while, should be an interesting system to track!
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Re: Tropical Wave in WestCentral Africa (Pouch 39L)

#4 Postby weatherwindow » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:27 am

Good morning Luis et al...it certainly appears that pouch 39L is by far the most southerly significant wave of the season... perhaps if it's lower latitude traverse of the MDR verifies it may have a better chance of encountering favorable conditions for development... I wonder if it may already be benefiting from its proximity to potential inflow from the Gulf of Guinea?...Rich
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#5 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:34 am

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#6 Postby blp » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:16 am

Very good consensus on the GFS ensembles. Notice a slight shift north now entering the islands at a slightly higher latitude with less ensembles showing the brush with SA. Let's see if the 12z adjusts. Also, in the long term the ensembles diverge quite a bit now.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#7 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:17 am

The mdr is extremely hostile right now folks i just can't by into the GFS right now.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#8 Postby blp » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:20 am

SFLcane wrote:The mdr is extremely hostile right now folks i just can't by into the GFS right now.


Agree, but that is why this one has to be watched because it will not be able to develop in the MDR and thus may present a problem down the road in Carribean. Enough models are showing that the vorticity will stay intact throughout the MDR trip. This one is highly unlikely to be an OTS.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#9 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:34 am

looks like the 12zGFS is showing this still skimming South America

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#10 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:40 am

Looks like the 12zGFS at 222 is 10 to 15 miles north of the 6z at 228

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#11 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:41 am

Repeat of NIcaragua landfall that 06z had?
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#12 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:51 am

cycloneye wrote:Repeat of NIcaragua landfall that 06z had?


nope, looks like western Cuba
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#13 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:51 am

No Nicaragua this run.Goes WNW to NW close to Jamaica towards Cuba.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#14 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:57 am

This time is Tampa.

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#15 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:57 am

Looks like Florida again and an intensifying storm also
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#16 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:01 pm

It's been a while since the Atlantic Basin has seen a real low latitude tropical cyclone (the last at a somewhat low latitude was Tomas '10 I believe). Its location will likely keep it more insulated from dry air than its predecessors. In fact, it even may be more susceptible to dry air from the Southern Hemisphere than from the north. I'll be watching this one with interest.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#17 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:01 pm

gatorcane wrote:Looks like Florida again and an intensifying storm also

I wouldn't put too much stock in it but I can't remember which meteorologist said about storm tracks seeming to go over similar areas through the hurricane season. the main cluster areas seem to be recurve around 40 to 50W and another area around the Florida big bend. lets just hope this doesnt come anywhere near florida

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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#18 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:04 pm

Yeah if this one gets Florida that would be two hurricanes and two tropical storms for the state this season. This one could be the strongest looking at the GFS upper air pattern. At least what the GFS is showing is in the long-range and subject to big errors.
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#19 Postby sma10 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:10 pm

This is obviously fantasy at this point, but still of interest to see if it develops as modeled. I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with an analog track that the GFS is depicting.

The historical record is chock full of October Cuba-to-Florida connections, but these usually find their genesis down in the Western Caribbean. Can anyone point to me an early October track similar to this one?
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Re: Tropical Wave in West Africa (Pouch 39L)

#20 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:27 pm

sma10 wrote:This is obviously fantasy at this point, but still of interest to see if it develops as modeled. I've been wracking my brain trying to come up with an analog track that the GFS is depicting.

The historical record is chock full of October Cuba-to-Florida connections, but these usually find their genesis down in the Western Caribbean. Can anyone point to me an early October track similar to this one?


I can give you a late August track...Charley formed in the Southern Antilles and tracked WNW to just west of Jamaica before making its move north over Cuba and to Punta Gorda.
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