Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Is Invest 97L)

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#981 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:53 pm

gatorcane wrote:GFS Simulated IR. Would certainly make Floridians rather nervous if it verified.

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It actually somewhat looks like the GFS is trying to resolve an eyewall replacement (whether it actually is or not is up for debate and above my pay grade for the time being).
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#982 Postby robbielyn » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:56 pm

that looks to be crossing some big mountains if it went north or northeast from there that is.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#983 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:57 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Alyono- what are your thoughts?? How do you think the upper air pattern will end up by looking at all the data I know it's early but what is your gut telling you ?


I ain't him, but there could (should?) be a timeframe way farther west that will provide for excellent upper support. Also the timing with a positive MJO and then the kelvin wave propagating could mean an intersection of several favorable attributes. Ryan Maue tweeted a bit ago that upper level wind shear and strong anticyclone above potential tropical system in Caribbean could be very intense.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#984 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:00 pm

robbielyn wrote:that looks to be crossing some big mountains.


Could pull a Dennis 2005 if anything like this plays out--if I remember it weakened over the mountains to a Cat 1, only to re-intensify to it's original peak intensity in the GoM.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#985 Postby SFLcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:01 pm

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#986 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:02 pm

Also want to point out that while this isn't an official invest, the NHC has internally been tracking this since the 22nd.

GENESIS024, AL, L, , , , , 79, 2016, DB, O, 2016092212, 9999999999, , 024, , , , GENESIS, , AL792016
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#987 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:02 pm

Hammy wrote:
robbielyn wrote:that looks to be crossing some big mountains.


Could pull a Dennis 2005 if anything like this plays out--if I remember it weakened over the mountains to a Cat 1, only to re-intensify to it's original peak intensity in the GoM.


If this goes west of the big mountains this will not weaken as much as Dennis did

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#988 Postby sunnyday » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:03 pm

This is definitely scary, but surely something will come along to keep such a storm from traveling up the spine of Florida. That picture is the stuff of nightmares.
How would the people there even be able to evacuate when the whole state is under a huge, major hurricane?
Unbelievable at best, terrifying at worst!!!!
Do any of you even consider this a possibility?
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#989 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:06 pm

When I loop this, I see some pretty good cyclonic rotation already. See far bottom-right of loop and adjust animation speed higher. By the way, RAMMB site still has no floater on this :grr:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#990 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:07 pm

sunnyday wrote:This is definitely scary, but surely something will come along to keep such a storm from traveling up the spine of Florida. That picture is the stuff of nightmares.
How would the people there even be able to evacuate when the whole state is under a huge, major hurricane?
Unbelievable at best, terrifying at worst!!!!
Do any of you even consider this a possibility?

At this point it is a possibility. Not a good set up for residents of the G.O.M.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#991 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:14 pm

USTropics wrote:Also want to point out that while this isn't an official invest, the NHC has internally been tracking this since the 22nd.

GENESIS024, AL, L, , , , , 79, 2016, DB, O, 2016092212, 9999999999, , 024, , , , GENESIS, , AL792016


Do you have the link to those tests?
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#992 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:16 pm

cycloneye wrote:
USTropics wrote:Also want to point out that while this isn't an official invest, the NHC has internally been tracking this since the 22nd.

GENESIS024, AL, L, , , , , 79, 2016, DB, O, 2016092212, 9999999999, , 024, , , , GENESIS, , AL792016


Do you have the link to those tests?


They add their internal invests to this txt document (only when they're active) - ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/index/AL_storms.txt.nhc
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#993 Postby robbielyn » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:17 pm

ok for some fun, I'm putting in my prediction for pouch 43L. not a singular specific landfall area but from what I've seen from the models so far I say LA or miami and heads nne out to sea. I say the whole peninsula north of miami safe. basically two ways it can go. if u force me to choose I say LA. obviously way too early to guess but I'm guessing anyway. sort of like when we guess at the beginning of the season how many storms we will have.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#994 Postby stormlover2013 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:20 pm

You can't leave out Mexico or Texas I mean gfs has been everywhere...right now I say let's see if it develops and if it does let's hope their is a strong front or trough of not all the way to Mexico-Florida better watch out
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#995 Postby gatorcane » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:20 pm

NASA model day 5

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#996 Postby Alyono » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:23 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Alyono- what are your thoughts?? How do you think the upper air pattern will end up by looking at all the data I know it's early but what is your gut telling you ?


very favorable for intensification
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#997 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:24 pm

I see cyclonic twist at 9.5N 33W
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#998 Postby robbielyn » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:25 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:You can't leave out Mexico or Texas I mean gfs has been everywhere...right now I say let's see if it develops and if it does let's hope their is a strong front or trough of not all the way to Mexico-Florida better watch out

if it starts moving nw towards the cuban coastline crossing into the straits its not going to mexico but I'm certainly not opposed to Matthew staying south and west by no means.
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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#999 Postby USTropics » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:35 pm

NCEP ensemble guidance at 100% probability of tropical genesis:

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Re: Tropical Wave in East Atlantic (Pouch 43L)

#1000 Postby JaxGator » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:40 pm

sunnyday wrote:This is definitely scary, but surely something will come along to keep such a storm from traveling up the spine of Florida. That picture is the stuff of nightmares.
How would the people there even be able to evacuate when the whole state is under a huge, major hurricane?
Unbelievable at best, terrifying at worst!!!!
Do any of you even consider this a possibility?


It's like Floyd (1999)n when most of the peninsula had to evacuate and that was a nightmare. I was three when my family and I had to evac from the hurricane and it was not fun. We'll have more model runs but the trend so far is scary.
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