2016 Cyclones Retirement
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2016 Cyclones Retirement
Now that we can be pretty certain that Matthew will be retired, I decided to make this thread.
Any other names that warrant retirement?
Any other names that warrant retirement?
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Re: 2016 Cyclones Retirement
I'm not really sure if Matthew will get retired. We still don't have any info on major damage in Cuba, considering that Haiti does NOT have a good track record with retiring storms (Gordon and Hanna anyone?), and if Cuba did better than expected, and this storm doesn't end up being as bad as it could be, I could still see it being there in 2022.
Earl and Hermine are otherwise the two other candidates. They're both borderline cases though, because Earl has the death toll going for him, while Hermine has the damage on her side.
Earl and Hermine are otherwise the two other candidates. They're both borderline cases though, because Earl has the death toll going for him, while Hermine has the damage on her side.
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Re: 2016 Cyclones Retirement
Matthew is for sure getting retired. It will be sealed after the US pass. Hermine is unlikely going to be retired while Earl has a chance.
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Re: 2016 Cyclones Retirement
If Matthew does get retired, it would be the fourth M name to leave and the first one since Michelle in 2001.
Matthew also follows the same path as Andrew and Igor, both of which have been replacement names on this list that got retired. And interesting to note is that Michelle was also a replacement name, and the A and I names on her list have been retired twice too.
Allen - Alicia
Andrew - Allison
Ivan - Iris
Igor - Ingrid
Mitch - Marilyn
Matthew? - Michelle
Matthew also follows the same path as Andrew and Igor, both of which have been replacement names on this list that got retired. And interesting to note is that Michelle was also a replacement name, and the A and I names on her list have been retired twice too.
Allen - Alicia
Andrew - Allison
Ivan - Iris
Igor - Ingrid
Mitch - Marilyn
Matthew? - Michelle
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galaxy401 wrote:Matthew is for sure getting retired. It will be sealed after the US pass. Hermine is unlikely going to be retired while Earl has a chance.
I agree. I don't think Hermine gets retired; its damage wasn't exceptional anywhere. Earl might if Mexico wants it but that is a tough call.
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HurricaneRyan wrote:I'm not really sure if Matthew will get retired. We still don't have any info on major damage in Cuba, considering that Haiti does NOT have a good track record with retiring storms (Gordon and Hanna anyone?), and if Cuba did better than expected, and this storm doesn't end up being as bad as it could be, I could still see it being there in 2022.
Earl and Hermine are otherwise the two other candidates. They're both borderline cases though, because Earl has the death toll going for him, while Hermine has the damage on her side.
Baracoa, Cuba sustained heavy to catastrophic damage (thankfully though, no fatalities - Cuba is top notch when it comes to protecting its residents from hurricanes). And if for some reason that's not enough, we still have no word out on the Bahamas. And it that's still not enough, there might still be enough surge/flooding in NE FL, GA, and the Carolinas to warrant retirement. Pretty likely this is gonna be the last Matthew.
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Quite a few deaths already, I can see Matthew getting retired after this.
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I would lose all faith in tropical cyclone retirement is Matthew is not retired.
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Latest number from Haiti is 842 and as they continue to access areas that were cutoff this number could continue to rise. Each time they put out a new count it grows exponentially. Just devastating season. Matthew without a doubt should and likely will be retired.
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But that's the problem. HAITI has suffered the worst damage, but it also has the worst retirement record out of all the places Matthew has hit so far. They didn't retire Gordon or Hanna. And the other storms that impacted Haiti also impacted other places. Matthew still has a good shot though
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HurricaneRyan wrote:But that's the problem. HAITI has suffered the worst damage, but it also has the worst retirement record out of all the places Matthew has hit so far. They didn't retire Gordon or Hanna. And the other storms that impacted Haiti also impacted other places. Matthew still has a good shot though
No one else had a reasonable retirement case for Gordon or Hanna. In this case, Cuba, the Bahamas and the US could also make a case.
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My chances for retirements:
Matthew: 100%
Earl: 55%
Hermine: 20%
Matthew: 100%
Earl: 55%
Hermine: 20%
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CrazyC83 wrote:HurricaneRyan wrote:But that's the problem. HAITI has suffered the worst damage, but it also has the worst retirement record out of all the places Matthew has hit so far. They didn't retire Gordon or Hanna. And the other storms that impacted Haiti also impacted other places. Matthew still has a good shot though
No one else had a reasonable retirement case for Gordon or Hanna. In this case, Cuba, the Bahamas and the US could also make a case.
The question though, did Haiti request for those names to be retired to start with? As far as I know that has to be done and while I'm not sure at all whether they did or not, it wouldn't be retired if they didn't.
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Hammy wrote:The question though, did Haiti request for those names to be retired to start with? As far as I know that has to be done and while I'm not sure at all whether they did or not, it wouldn't be retired if they didn't.
I think the WCarib may still be capable of something late. Regardless ACE is a very telling statistic more than names and number of storms. And the very high amount of ACE for Matthew speaks volumes of it's life, unfortunate for many. And with the season at least normal to slightly above ACE(with both respectable Gaston and Matthew) it's difficult to argue against it being an active season period.
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Re: 2016 Cyclones Retirement
At this point, my estimate chances for retirement:
Alex - 2%
Bonnie - 2%
Colin - 2%
Danielle - 2%
Earl - 40%
Fiona - <2%
Gaston - <2%
Hermine - 15%
Ian - <2%
Julia - 3%
Karl - 2%
Lisa - <2%
Matthew - 98%
Nicole - <2% (subject to change)
Alex - 2%
Bonnie - 2%
Colin - 2%
Danielle - 2%
Earl - 40%
Fiona - <2%
Gaston - <2%
Hermine - 15%
Ian - <2%
Julia - 3%
Karl - 2%
Lisa - <2%
Matthew - 98%
Nicole - <2% (subject to change)
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Re: 2016 Cyclones Retirement
99.999% for Matthew
35% for Earl
10% for Hermine
<5% for everything else, although this is subject to change
35% for Earl
10% for Hermine
<5% for everything else, although this is subject to change
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Re: 2016 Cyclones Retirement
Matthew will be retired and probably not ever used for another basin
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Earl, Hermine and Matthew notes.
Can't be used for replacement names:
Manuel, Marco, Mario, Marty, Max, Michael, Mitch
Hanna, Hattie, Hazel, Helene, Henriette, Hilary, Hilda, Hortense
Edouard, Enrique, Erick, Ernesto, Eugene
Can't be used for replacement names:
Manuel, Marco, Mario, Marty, Max, Michael, Mitch
Hanna, Hattie, Hazel, Helene, Henriette, Hilary, Hilda, Hortense
Edouard, Enrique, Erick, Ernesto, Eugene
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If I picked a replacement name for Matthew, it would be Miguel.
It's the first slam dunk retirement since Sandy IMO.
It's the first slam dunk retirement since Sandy IMO.
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After hearing that the damage is close to $4 to 6 billion in the United States, now I'm certain Matthew will be retired
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