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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#181 Postby doomhaMwx » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:13 am

Taiwan's Central Weather Bureau(CWB) has issued their outlook for the 2017 Typhoon Season...
Although only two named storms have formed so far, CWB forecasts that 21-25 Tropical Storms/Typhoons will form over the NW Pacific between June and December 2017, which is close to the climate average, and 3-5 of these could directly affect Taiwan...
http://www.cwb.gov.tw/V7/news/Newsbb/EN ... presse.doc
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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#182 Postby cycloneye » Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:32 pm

As Ryan Maue said a few days ago,basin is a "Ghost Town"

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0 NW Pacific typhoons so far in "2017. 1st time since 1983-84 with consecutive years with 0 typhoons through 6/26 (2016 also had 0 thru 6/26)


 https://twitter.com/philklotzbach/status/879405303912996864


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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#183 Postby euro6208 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:01 pm

cycloneye wrote:As Ryan Maue said a few days ago,basin is a "Ghost Town"

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0 NW Pacific typhoons so far in "2017. 1st time since 1983-84 with consecutive years with 0 typhoons through 6/26 (2016 also had 0 thru 6/26)




And ended up with 17 typhoons.
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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#184 Postby euro6208 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:09 pm

Nanmadol.

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#185 Postby euro6208 » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:09 pm

GFS has Talas interacting with two other systems before striking Japan.

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#186 Postby euro6208 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:21 am

GFS now brings Nanmadol over close if not a direct hit to Okinawa.
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#187 Postby euro6208 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:10 pm

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#188 Postby euro6208 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:00 pm

INVEST 98W

Up for possible Nanmadol.
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#189 Postby euro6208 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:23 pm

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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#190 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:43 pm

There are some hints that a global pattern change may begin to transpire in July, moving towards a more El Nino like base state. It's still too early to tell how drastic this pattern shift could be, but guidance is already starting to show some changes coming about. Indications of lowering surface pressures out east near the International Date Line is certainly a more Nino like occurrence.

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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#191 Postby euro6208 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:27 pm

Global Tropical Cyclone Activity Paltry So Far. The Real Drought Source: The Western Pacific Basin

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/global-tropical-cyclone-drought-june2

Some really interesting read. Will the most active basin in the world wake up anytime soon?
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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#192 Postby dexterlabio » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:17 pm

1900hurricane wrote:There are some hints that a global pattern change may begin to transpire in July, moving towards a more El Nino like base state. It's still too early to tell how drastic this pattern shift could be, but guidance is already starting to show some changes coming about. Indications of lowering surface pressures out east near the International Date Line is certainly a more Nino like occurrence.

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Interesting. Will this mean a more active WPAC compared to the same period in 2016, a La Nina year? Although a weak to moderate EN does not always guarantee an above average typhoon season. Like for example, in 2009, there were a handful of super typhoons but pales in comparison with other non-Nino years. I'd say 2016 is even more active than 2009 and 2006.
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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#193 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:53 pm

dexterlabio wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:There are some hints that a global pattern change may begin to transpire in July, moving towards a more El Nino like base state. It's still too early to tell how drastic this pattern shift could be, but guidance is already starting to show some changes coming about. Indications of lowering surface pressures out east near the International Date Line is certainly a more Nino like occurrence.

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Interesting. Will this mean a more active WPAC compared to the same period in 2016, a La Nina year? Although a weak to moderate EN does not always guarantee an above average typhoon season. Like for example, in 2009, there were a handful of super typhoons but pales in comparison with other non-Nino years. I'd say 2017 is even more active than 2009 and 2006.


It's hard to tell at this juncture, but it certainly is possible. A hallmark of an El Nino is often a more active than average July and/or August, so we may see some signs within the next week or two.

And believe it or not, aside from actual storm count, both 2006 and 2009 were more active in almost every single way than 2016. Much of that has to do with storm duration though, El Nino years usually have storms forming further east and therefore existing longer. Most of 2016's storms, including some of the the really strong ones, didn't last very long. Nepartak and Meranti each lasted for less than six days, a far cry from a the true ACE hoarders like Ioke or Melor.

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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#194 Postby dexterlabio » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:17 pm

1900hurricane wrote:
dexterlabio wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:There are some hints that a global pattern change may begin to transpire in July, moving towards a more El Nino like base state. It's still too early to tell how drastic this pattern shift could be, but guidance is already starting to show some changes coming about. Indications of lowering surface pressures out east near the International Date Line is certainly a more Nino like occurrence.

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Interesting. Will this mean a more active WPAC compared to the same period in 2016, a La Nina year? Although a weak to moderate EN does not always guarantee an above average typhoon season. Like for example, in 2009, there were a handful of super typhoons but pales in comparison with other non-Nino years. I'd say 2017 is even more active than 2009 and 2006.


It's hard to tell at this juncture, but it certainly is possible. A hallmark of an El Nino is often a more active than average July and/or August, so we may see some signs within the next week or two.

And believe it or not, aside from actual storm count, both 2006 and 2009 were more active in almost every single way than 2016. Much of that has to do with storm duration though, El Nino years usually have storms forming further east and therefore existing longer. Most of 2016's storms, including some of the the really strong ones, didn't last very long. Nepartak and Meranti each lasted for less than six days, a far cry from a the true ACE hoarders like Ioke or Melor.

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Typo: I meant 2016 is more active, not 2017. My bad. :lol:

Anyway, I totally forgot about the long-tracking intense typhoons of 2006 and 2009, true mark of a raging El Nino. Thank you for posting the data, I had no idea those 2 years actually generated a good amount of ACE.
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#195 Postby euro6208 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:30 pm

Interesting stats and thanks for the chart. Bookmarked!
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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#196 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:37 am

TSR going to release their July 6 forecast. Their May 5th forecast called for:

27 Tropical Storms
17 Typhoons
10 Major Typhoons
ACE 357

Already 3 TS, and 1 unconfirmed typhoon so far. I wonder what lies ahead.

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Re: 2017 WPAC Season

#197 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:58 am

Just look at how warm 2017 is compared to 2016 although. 2017 leads both 2006 and 2009 although 2017 fails in comparison to 2009's sst.

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#198 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:03 am

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#199 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:14 am

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#200 Postby euro6208 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:16 pm

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