2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#21 Postby Calasanjy » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:05 pm

Both EURO and GFS hinting on a somewhat strong cyclone with the latter almost making a direct hit on Mauritius in the SIO.


It seems that at least a few of the models are intent on developing two tropical cyclones in the Southwest Indian Ocean next week, with one hovering dangerously close to the Mascarene Islands and Madagascar.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#22 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:02 pm

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Only value this model is worthy off, is for a good laugh. USA put a man on the moon decades ago, now co-ordinate
rendezvous with rocket ships to planets millions of miles away in the future. But still cant produce a reliable 24hr
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#23 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:38 am

:uarrow: The 948mbar things are lee cyclones I think.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#24 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:53 am

Yellow Evan wrote::uarrow: The 948mbar things are lee cyclones I think.

I will take your word on it as cyclones on the lee side of troughs. I myself was thinking along the line of its the model poorly resolving surface convergence or divergence aloft.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#25 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:28 am

Still a little far out for my liking prefers models @110hrs.

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Models are suggesting a MT will setup in the Arafura sea at the end of this week. Where the low will form if it does, is anyones guess atm.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#26 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:03 pm

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CMC along with the access model handled the last MT quite well,its likely it may well be right again with a Solomon island low forming and tracking WSW towards QLDS coast. Climo suits this solution.


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Bom surface chart has the MT positioned to support a low in the coral sea.

Also note the strong cold fronts still moving across the Indo...Tasman, imo= -SAM. High pressure hadley cells can usually stall in the Tasman in the Great Australian Bight for weeks. But its not happening this season with the on going C/fronts.

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UKMET model :darrow: 1 off WA and another in GOC.
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MJO looking OK, if the SAM weekly returns to a neutral state or better still goes positive. There may be some interesting tropical weather.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#27 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:34 pm

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21/12z stronger cyclone.

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http://www.eldersweather.com.au/models/ ... sg&mc=mslp
The local Global Model now trending a similar scenario,both models have a strong ridge under the cyclone. Will the EC/GFS follow suit.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#28 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:33 pm

Guidance has backed off considerably on the prominence of the potential SWIO system. I haven't had a good opportunity to analyze why, but perhaps guidance has been a little over-exuberant with Madden-Julian?

With regards to the SEIO/Australian system, I'd watch out for how much land interaction plays a part. The ECMWF seems to have had an equatorial bias in track thus far this season around northwestern Australia, which has been the difference between a system over warm waters an a system over land. The ECMWF has trended a little poleward as of late, meeting the GFS's slight equatorial trend and coming into good agreement in keeping the system just offshore for the time being.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#29 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:08 pm

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/w ... .580,8.743

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8-)Monsoon trough is ramping up over the Arafura and Timor Seas.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#30 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:43 am

@Time of posting.
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Access global is as good as any model in this region usually. Maybe a cook-town hit.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#31 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:47 pm

1900hurricane wrote:Guidance has backed off considerably on the prominence of the potential SWIO system. I haven't had a good opportunity to analyze why, but perhaps guidance has been a little over-exuberant with Madden-Julian?

With regards to the SEIO/Australian system, I'd watch out for how much land interaction plays a part. The ECMWF seems to have had an equatorial bias in track thus far this season around northwestern Australia, which has been the difference between a system over warm waters an a system over land. The ECMWF has trended a little poleward as of late, meeting the GFS's slight equatorial trend and coming into good agreement in keeping the system just offshore for the time being.


Certainly looks that way.

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The MJO was active during the past week, with both the CPC velocity potential and RMM-based indices depicting an eastward propagating intraseasonal signal. While the RMM-based index shows the enhanced phase currently emerging over the western Indian Ocean (Phase-2), there is not much of a convective response in the central Indian Ocean. This is likely due to destructive interference between the MJO and the negative Indian Ocean Dipole (IOD) event and waning La Nina conditions. The spatial pattern of upper-level velocity potential anomalies generally reflects the intraseasonal signal, with the destructive interference from other modes, e.g., large-scale enhanced divergence (convergence) aloft over the Maritime Continent (central Indian Ocean) that is out of phase with the MJO, readily apparent. An equatorial Rossby wave (ERW) is also observed in the OLR and lower-level wind fields, and this feature is also contributing to the enhanced convection over the Maritime Continent.

Dynamical model MJO index forecasts generally support continued eastward propagation of the intraseasonal signal from the Indian Ocean to the Maritime Continent over the next two weeks. The GEFS is a notable outlier, and depicts rapid weakening of the signal after several days. Note that the RMM-index accounts for the low frequency state by removing the 120-day period mean; therefore, the GEFS forecast may be exhibiting a bias against a Maritime Continent signal given the weakening ENSO state. Statistical tools, including the Constructed Analog, strongly support robust evolution of the MJO during the outlook period. Additionally, as the MJO enhanced convective envelope approaches the Maritime Continent, it will begin constructively interfering with both the base state and the observed Rossby wave. Therefore, the MJO is anticipated to remain active over the next two weeks, with the convective response becoming more consistent with historical composites during Week-2 as destructive interference with the other modes lessens. Tropical to northern hemisphere extratropical teleconnections are generally robust this time of year with an Indian Ocean and Maritime Continent MJO event, with a retraction of the East Asian Jet favoring an evolution toward troughing over western North America and ridging over eastern North America. An anticipated blocking pattern over the Gulf of Alaska during Week-2, however, may complicate the evolution of any extratropical response. The tropics may continue to influence the extratropical pattern beyond Week-2 if the MJO signal is able to emerge over the West Pacific.

No tropical cyclones developed during the past week. During the GTH outlook period, a relatively quiet pattern is anticipated to continue. An area of low pressure is currently inland over northern Australia. As this region re-enters open waters near the Kimberley Coast, there is a moderate potential for tropical cyclone formation. Elsewhere, enhanced convection is ongoing east of the Philippines, partly in association with the ERW, and some GFS ensemble members depict tropical cyclone development arising from this convection. The formation potential is too low at this time to depict a hazard shape on this outlook. The GFS has consistently initialized a tropical cyclone over the southwestern Indian Ocean over the past several days; however, satellite imagery reveals little organized convection in this region, and the negative IOD phase is not supportive for tropical cyclone formation.

The Week-1 outlook favors dynamical model guidance from the CFS and ECMWF more than MJO composites due to destructive interference among the competing tropical signals. Suppressed convection is favored across the southwestern Indian Ocean, while enhanced convection associated with the MJO is primarily limited to the north-central and northeastern Indian Ocean. Enhanced convection is also favored across the western Maritime Continent and northwestern Indian Ocean, partly due to ERW activity and the base state. Suppressed convection is forecast for northeastern Australia, the eastern Coral Sea eastward to Fiji, and the equatorial central Pacific. Across the Western Hemisphere, enhanced rainfall is favored to extend from the upper Amazon basin through much of the equatorial Atlantic, which is consistent with the MJO.



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JMA looking very benign in the Indo ,sinking air.


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Hoping the ER wave (red) moving east will be enough to get the low out in the Solomon sea going, access model is still sending it as a cyclone to QLD. They need all the rain there after the brutal nino years.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#32 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:48 pm

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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#33 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:25 pm

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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#34 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:44 pm

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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#35 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:25 pm

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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#36 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:26 pm

ECMWF... cyclone mozambique channel 7/2
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#37 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:17 pm

EC/GFS throwing up another cyclone off NW WA, likely this one may go unnamed also if it does eventuate. As pointed out by a met on storm2k BOM has a weird stand alone system when it comes to naming a TS.

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SST appear plenty warm enough in the MDR in SWIO, there are cool anoms on other plots but 26c is the lower threshold for a TC.

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EC shifted the SWIO cyclone East.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#38 Postby cycloneye » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:03 am

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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#39 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:58 pm

Fantala was the last one, correct? It certainly has been a while. I'd say there is a decent shot that the modeled system off of Madagascar (92S) may finally break that streak, but that area has seriously been underperforming wrt to model guidance the past few weeks.
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Re: 2016-2017 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season

#40 Postby Digital-TC-Chaser » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:03 pm

@1900hurricane yes spot on Fantala was the last in the swio and it was a 910mb VITC.

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