2017 ACE: NATL - 226.0 | EPAC - 98.2 | WPAC - 154.5 | NIO - 16.1

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Re: 2017 ACE: NATL - 166.715 - EPAC - 96.9075 - WPAC - 116.2925 - NIO - 3.54

#281 Postby 1900hurricane » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:56 pm

My numbers (in header) have the NAtl just passing 1996 at 00Z, pushing 2017 up to seventh overall in the satellite era for the basin. PDI is already elite at fourth for the same time period, and getting ready to pass 1995 for third (with only 2004 and 2005 above that). The huge PDI has been driven by 4.75 category 5 days, the most in North Atlantic history.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 165.2 - EPAC - 96.8 - WPAC - 117.8 - NIO - 3.9

#282 Postby Ptarmigan » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:50 pm

Most ACE since 2010. I suspect we could ACE of 200. It would be interesting to see total energy Integrated Kinetic Energy (IKE).
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Re: 2017 ACE: NATL - 166.715 - EPAC - 96.9075 - WPAC - 116.2925 - NIO - 3.54

#283 Postby Steve » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:11 am

1900hurricane wrote:My numbers (in header) have the NAtl just passing 1996 at 00Z, pushing 2017 up to seventh overall in the satellite era for the basin. PDI is already elite at fourth for the same time period, and getting ready to pass 1995 for third (with only 2004 and 2005 above that). The huge PDI has been driven by 4.75 category 5 days, the most in North Atlantic history.


I think Maria will take us into the 180s or possibly 190s if the GFS is close
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 165.2 - EPAC - 96.8 - WPAC - 117.8 - NIO - 3.9

#284 Postby NotSparta » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:22 am

This is an hour old, but right now there's no new data so I'll post it anyway: :spam:

ACE Update:

ATL: 167.5 (most since 2005, passing 2010, 1969, 1996, and 1886, now 7th highest in satellite era)

EPAC and WPAC: still sleeping
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 171.205 - EPAC - 96.755 - WPAC - 117.2 - NIO - 3.945

#285 Postby euro6208 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:51 am

KWT wrote:Very active hurricane season, probably crank a major in October as well given we are going into a La Nina state. Top 10 season highly probable now at least.

As for the WPAC, still way too early to tell, you could quite easily get 2-3 Cat-5s out of the back end of the season in the WPAC and that gap we have at the moment will be gone almost as fast as it went up. Not saying that will happen, but you never quite know with the WPAC, anything is possible!


I remember last year the EPAC led by more than 60 but then got blew out by more than 60 at the end.

I agree, with a couple (2-3 Cat 5's), the WPAC still is in reach for global ACE leader.

Can it do it again this year?

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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 165.2 - EPAC - 96.8 - WPAC - 117.8 - NIO - 3.9

#286 Postby NotSparta » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:42 pm

ACE update:

ATL: 170 (same as 1932 and 1964)

EPAC and WPAC: No change
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 165.2 - EPAC - 96.8 - WPAC - 117.8 - NIO - 3.9

#287 Postby 1900hurricane » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:33 pm

September in the NAtl is only about 12 units of ACE behind NAtl September 2004 for most ACE in a single month. That actually might be attainable.
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#288 Postby NotSparta » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:11 pm

1900hurricane wrote:September in the NAtl is only about 12 units of ACE behind NAtl September 2004 for most ACE in a single month. That actually might be attainable.


It will, imo. With Lee alone, going by NHC predictions, in 5 days (that is with a few days to spare), ACE will be halfway to that point. Add in Maria, and you surge past 12, with more time.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 165.2 - EPAC - 96.8 - WPAC - 117.8 - NIO - 3.9

#289 Postby KWT » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:40 am

1900hurricane wrote:September in the NAtl is only about 12 units of ACE behind NAtl September 2004 for most ACE in a single month. That actually might be attainable.


With the rebirth of Lee and Maria likely to hang around at least 5 more days as a hurricane, I'd say that is pretty much odds on now!

What I found amazing is the fact that the N.Atlantic is currently on track with a WPAC average season, that should show how impressive this season has been.

Gotta think there is a reasonable chance 2005 will now be challenged, would probably still take a couple of decent hurricanes but given the pacifc's state at the moment and how generally favorable the Atlantic has been, I think there is a shot of this.
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#290 Postby euro6208 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:21 am

KWT wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:September in the NAtl is only about 12 units of ACE behind NAtl September 2004 for most ACE in a single month. That actually might be attainable.


With the rebirth of Lee and Maria likely to hang around at least 5 more days as a hurricane, I'd say that is pretty much odds on now!

What I found amazing is the fact that the N.Atlantic is currently on track with a WPAC average season, that should show how impressive this season has been.

Gotta think there is a reasonable chance 2005 will now be challenged, would probably still take a couple of decent hurricanes but given the pacifc's state at the moment and how generally favorable the Atlantic has been, I think there is a shot of this.


What is the WPAC's average season ACE?
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#291 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:30 am

While many records were set by Irma, it seems like many were 'just missed', so I have to wonder if we'll 'just miss' this one too and end up just under the all time high.

https://webcms.colostate.edu/tropical/m ... ecords.pdf
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#292 Postby NotSparta » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:33 am

euro6208 wrote:
KWT wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:September in the NAtl is only about 12 units of ACE behind NAtl September 2004 for most ACE in a single month. That actually might be attainable.


With the rebirth of Lee and Maria likely to hang around at least 5 more days as a hurricane, I'd say that is pretty much odds on now!

What I found amazing is the fact that the N.Atlantic is currently on track with a WPAC average season, that should show how impressive this season has been.

Gotta think there is a reasonable chance 2005 will now be challenged, would probably still take a couple of decent hurricanes but given the pacifc's state at the moment and how generally favorable the Atlantic has been, I think there is a shot of this.


What is the WPAC's average season ACE?



177, ATL currently not far behind at 172
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#293 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:20 am

euro6208 wrote:
KWT wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:September in the NAtl is only about 12 units of ACE behind NAtl September 2004 for most ACE in a single month. That actually might be attainable.


With the rebirth of Lee and Maria likely to hang around at least 5 more days as a hurricane, I'd say that is pretty much odds on now!

What I found amazing is the fact that the N.Atlantic is currently on track with a WPAC average season, that should show how impressive this season has been.

Gotta think there is a reasonable chance 2005 will now be challenged, would probably still take a couple of decent hurricanes but given the pacifc's state at the moment and how generally favorable the Atlantic has been, I think there is a shot of this.


What is the WPAC's average season ACE?

~300.
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#294 Postby Hurricaneman » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:43 am

NotSparta wrote:
euro6208 wrote:
KWT wrote:
With the rebirth of Lee and Maria likely to hang around at least 5 more days as a hurricane, I'd say that is pretty much odds on now!

What I found amazing is the fact that the N.Atlantic is currently on track with a WPAC average season, that should show how impressive this season has been.

Gotta think there is a reasonable chance 2005 will now be challenged, would probably still take a couple of decent hurricanes but given the pacifc's state at the moment and how generally favorable the Atlantic has been, I think there is a shot of this.


What is the WPAC's average season ACE?



177, ATL currently not far behind at 172

That 177 number is the EPAC average
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#295 Postby NotSparta » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:56 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
NotSparta wrote:
euro6208 wrote:
What is the WPAC's average season ACE?



177, ATL currently not far behind at 172

That 177 number is the EPAC average


I misread the question, I thought it was average season ACE so far, which for the WPAC is 177. My bad.... :oops:
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#296 Postby Ntxw » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:57 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
NotSparta wrote:
euro6208 wrote:
What is the WPAC's average season ACE?



177, ATL currently not far behind at 172

That 177 number is the EPAC average


I think they meant that number to date is what the WPAC typically sees for the same period which is correct. Around late Sept to early Oct WPAC runs about 200 units.
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#297 Postby NotSparta » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:06 am

ACE update:

ATL: 173.9

EPAC: 96.5

WPAC: 106.5
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#298 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:46 pm

The Atlantic is really kicking some butt this season. It could reach 200 if we get a october storm.

The only thing better is if Venus would have been discovered to be that Tropical planet that some imagined and we'd get to watch some hypercanes rip across its oceans. ;) Think of the ace in that case. I'd imagine this is pretty likely in some other solar system.

Going to need a really good telescope to watch those cyclones when such planet is found.

I really want to see what a hurricane becomes when it has 150f water under it.
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#299 Postby RL3AO » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:53 pm

Maria will be the 3rd storm with 40 ACE. Just a remarkable stretch in the Atlantic.

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name System ACE Max Intensity
------------------ ------------ ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR] 0.81 45
Bret (02L) 0.6875 40
Cindy (03L) 1.55 50
Four (04L) 0 25
Don (05L) 0.6875 40
Emily (06L) 0.405 45
Franklin (07L) 3.685 75
Gert (08L) 7.2675 90
Harvey (09L) 11.1225 115
Irma (11L) 67.505 160
Jose (12L) 41.795 135
Katia (13L) 6.055 90
Lee (14L) 1.055 40
Maria (15L) 32.5375 150

Season Total 175.162
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#300 Postby Hammy » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:07 pm

How are we looking for the monthly record at the moment?
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