2017 ACE: NATL - 226.0 | EPAC - 98.2 | WPAC - 145.3 | NIO - 16.1

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Re: 2017 ACE: NATL - 214.0 | EPAC - 97.9 | WPAC - 117.2 | NIO - 3.9

#381 Postby Hammy » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:01 pm

Every non-2013 year since 2011 has had a major in October now.
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Re: 2017 ACE: NATL - 218.5 | EPAC - 97.9 | WPAC - 117.2 | NIO - 3.9

#382 Postby WeatherGuesser » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:10 pm

I take it O will crank up a few more ...
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#383 Postby WeatherEmperor » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:53 pm

Ryan Maue currently has ACE at 220.8. Simply amazing.

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#384 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:54 pm

NAtl PDI has now passed both 2004 and 2005 for most in that basin in the satellite era!
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Re: 2017 ACE: NATL - 218.5 | EPAC - 97.9 | WPAC - 117.2 | NIO - 3.9

#385 Postby blp » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:26 pm

4th, 5th, 6th place should be falling by tomorrow. Amazing...

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1. 1933.....258.5700
2. 2005.....250.1275
3. 1893.....231.1475
4. 1926.....229.5575
5. 1995.....227.1025
6. 2004.....226.8800
7. 2017.....222.863
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#386 Postby HurricaneRyan » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:36 am

Hammy wrote:Every non-2013 year since 2011 has had a major in October now.


2010 is the only other year that didn't have an October major this decade - yet it had three Cat 2s.

Two of the majors have been named Ophelia as well. It's crazy.
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#387 Postby euro6208 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:54 am

We now have Khanun and soon to be Lan in the WPAC which is sure to bring up the ACE. LAN is the 25th TC of the season. Slow ACE but sure is active number wise. The WPAC never sleeps.
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#388 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:38 am

euro6208 wrote:We now have Khanun and soon to be Lan in the WPAC which is sure to bring up the ACE. LAN is the 25th TC of the season. Slow ACE but sure is active number wise. The WPAC never sleeps.

The WPAC slept from September 16 to October 15.... :lol:

Nonetheless, we may get around 40 ACE from Lan alone. Resembles Jelawat in 2012 in track somehow with Lan expected to maintain intensity long enough to accrue significant ACE. Since Lan is from a monsoon gyre, we may see Saola and Damrey develop as well, with the former possibly impacting the Visayas.

P.S: They should've kept Vicente. Much cooler name than Lan. Maria is in the WPac lists as well, what would happen to her if she would be retired from the NAtl lists?
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#389 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:30 am

1900hurricane wrote:NAtl PDI has now passed both 2004 and 2005 for most in that basin in the satellite era!


What is the PDI for 2017 so far?
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#390 Postby 1900hurricane » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:30 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:NAtl PDI has now passed both 2004 and 2005 for most in that basin in the satellite era!


What is the PDI for 2017 so far?

As of 12Z, 222.213375 * 10**6 kt**3. 2005 had 220.03975 and 2004 had 219.405675. Behind these years, 1995 is a distant third for NAtl satellite era data with 181.277375. Prior to this year, 2004 actually had the calendar year record for the same timeframe since 2005 didn't pass 2004 until January 2006 near the end of Zeta's life.
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#391 Postby blp » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:04 pm

Does Ophelia still gain ACE points even if it is extratropical?
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#392 Postby Ntxw » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:08 pm

blp wrote:Does Ophelia still gain ACE points even if it is extratropical?


Subtropical and extratropical are not counted for official ACE
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#393 Postby blp » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:11 pm

Ntxw wrote:
blp wrote:Does Ophelia still gain ACE points even if it is extratropical?


Subtropical and extratropical are not counted for official ACE


Thanks for clarifying. Looks like she is going to fall just short of 2004.

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1. 1933.....258.5700
2. 2005.....250.1275
3. 1893.....231.1475
4. 1926.....229.5575
5. 1995.....227.1025
6. 2004.....226.8800
7. 2017.....225.398
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Re: 2017 ACE: NATL - 218.5 | EPAC - 97.9 | WPAC - 117.2 | NIO - 3.9

#394 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:26 pm

1900hurricane wrote:
Ptarmigan wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:NAtl PDI has now passed both 2004 and 2005 for most in that basin in the satellite era!


What is the PDI for 2017 so far?

As of 12Z, 222.213375 * 10**6 kt**3. 2005 had 220.03975 and 2004 had 219.405675. Behind these years, 1995 is a distant third for NAtl satellite era data with 181.277375. Prior to this year, 2004 actually had the calendar year record for the same timeframe since 2005 didn't pass 2004 until January 2006 near the end of Zeta's life.


2005 had more named storms than 1995, 2004, and 2017. 1995, 2004, and 2017 had more storms forming in the Main Development Region. They had more Cape Verde storms. 2005 had more storms form in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico. They tend to form closer to land.
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#395 Postby euro6208 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:56 am

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euro6208 wrote:We now have Khanun and soon to be Lan in the WPAC which is sure to bring up the ACE. LAN is the 25th TC of the season. Slow ACE but sure is active number wise. The WPAC never sleeps.

The WPAC slept from September 16 to October 15.... :lol:

Nonetheless, we may get around 40 ACE from Lan alone. Resembles Jelawat in 2017 in track somehow with Lan expected to maintain intensity long enough to accrue significant ACE. Since Lan is from a monsoon gyre, we may see Saola and Damrey develop as well, with the former possibly impacting the Visayas.

P.S: They should've kept Vicente. Much cooler name than Lan. Maria is in the WPac lists as well, what would happen to her if she would be retired from the NAtl lists?


I myself like the name Lan. It is very unique and isn't one of those too asian like. :lol: When i said the WPAC never sleeps, i mean the whole year. It never shuts down. :lol:
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#396 Postby euro6208 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:31 am

WPAC up to 127.762 due to Lan contributing 5.3025. Normal YTD is 230 or 55% of normal.
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#397 Postby xtyphooncyclonex » Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:06 am

euro6208 wrote:WPAC up to 127.762 due to Lan contributing 5.3025. Normal YTD is 230 or 55% of normal.

WPac is 10 units lower than that, actually....

116.1

http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Realtime/
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Re: 2017 ACE: NATL - 223.2 | EPAC - 97.9 | WPAC - 116.1 | NIO - 3.9

#398 Postby tolakram » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:47 am

I've updated the numbers to match CSU for now. Not sure they are accurately tracking the current WPAC activity and I'm not sure where to look since Maue's site has been removed from Weatherbell.

Edit: New site is here: http://wx.graphics/tropical/ I'll update first post in case I forget again. :D

His numbers higher, any opinion on which ones to use?

WPAC: 128.887
NATL: 226.62
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#399 Postby 1900hurricane » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:20 pm

xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
euro6208 wrote:WPAC up to 127.762 due to Lan contributing 5.3025. Normal YTD is 230 or 55% of normal.

WPac is 10 units lower than that, actually....

116.1

http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Realtime/

I have 127.0425 for the WPac. Maue's numbers run a little hot sometimes, but CSU's WPac numbers have been around 10 units too low for a little while now for some reason.
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Re: 2017 ACE: NATL - 218.5 | EPAC - 97.9 | WPAC - 117.2 | NIO - 3.9

#400 Postby euro6208 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:20 am

1900hurricane wrote:
xtyphooncyclonex wrote:
euro6208 wrote:WPAC up to 127.762 due to Lan contributing 5.3025. Normal YTD is 230 or 55% of normal.

WPac is 10 units lower than that, actually....

116.1

http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Realtime/

I have 127.0425 for the WPac. Maue's numbers run a little hot sometimes, but CSU's WPac numbers have been around 10 units too low for a little while now for some reason.


Your numbers and Maue's are almost spot on.
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