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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 7.1525 - EPAC - 72.455 - WPAC - 61.425 - NIO - 3.945

#101 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:50 pm

Franklin has at the time of this post 3.0125 ACE units.Let's see at the end how much it contributes to the North Atlantic
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 8.94 - EPAC - 72.455 - WPAC - 61.425 - NIO - 3.945

#102 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:57 am

Franklin got 4.8 ACE Units and the North Atlantic still is shy of 10 units. (8.94) The normal number for this date (August 10) is 11 units.
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#103 Postby Ntxw » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:00 am

cycloneye wrote:Franklin got 4.8 ACE Units and the North Atlantic still is shy of 10 units. (8.94) The normal number for this date (August 10) is 11 units.


It's been adjusted to 3.7 units for both CSU and Wxbell which puts the Atlantic at 7.825.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 7.825 - EPAC - 72.455 - WPAC - 61.425 - NIO - 3.945

#104 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:59 am

Ntxw wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Franklin got 4.8 ACE Units and the North Atlantic still is shy of 10 units. (8.94) The normal number for this date (August 10) is 11 units.


It's been adjusted to 3.7 units for both CSU and Wxbell which puts the Atlantic at 7.825.


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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 7.825 - EPAC - 72.455 - WPAC - 61.425 - NIO - 3.945

#105 Postby euro6208 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:00 am

Banyan at 2.52.

It might add up some more huge ACE as the models develops it big time. It'll likely propel it pass the EPAC but still way down Normal YTD of 94.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 7.825 - EPAC - 72.455 - WPAC - 61.425 - NIO - 3.945

#106 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:10 am

euro6208 wrote:Banyan at 2.52.

It might add up some more huge ACE as the models develops it big time. It'll likely propel it pass the EPAC but still way down Normal YTD of 94.

How? Having tabbed out the best track data, I have Banyan just passing 1*10**4 kt**2 at 12Z.

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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 7.825 - EPAC - 72.455 - WPAC - 61.425 - NIO - 3.945

#107 Postby euro6208 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:16 pm

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euro6208 wrote:Banyan at 2.52.

It might add up some more huge ACE as the models develops it big time. It'll likely propel it pass the EPAC but still way down Normal YTD of 94.

How? Having tabbed out the best track data, I have Banyan just passing 1*10**4 kt**2 at 12Z.



http://models.weatherbell.com/tropical.php I got the data from here.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 7.825 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 66.1875 - NIO - 3.945

#108 Postby 1900hurricane » Sat Aug 12, 2017 8:36 pm

Ahh, looks like Maue's numbers are doing weird things again. I wish I knew why his numbers run so hot sometimes.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 7.825 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 66.1875 - NIO - 3.945

#109 Postby Ntxw » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:49 pm

Yeah I haven't been able to figure out his methods. But in the end once it finalizes it's usually where it should be, just real time as it updates seems to be off a little.

Relative to normal the NHEM is running about 85-87% of normal. WPAC about 70%, EPAC 130%, and Atlantic 60% of normal to date ACE
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 7.825 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 70.2375 - NIO - 3.945

#110 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:53 am

North Atlantic may get plenty of ACE units with what may come out of Invest 91L.Looks like it will be a classic Cabo Verde longtracker.
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#111 Postby euro6208 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:18 am

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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 8.23 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 67.4325 - NIO - 3.945

#112 Postby euro6208 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:22 am

Western N Pacific 70.1625
Eastern + Cent N Pac 72.945
14W BANYAN 80 90 8.7375
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#113 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:26 pm

Not sure where else to put this so I'll put it here--I did a quick survey of the last four years, and from 2013-16 the average is September 25--half the season's ACE still has yet to occur by that point.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 10.1475 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 73.145 - NIO - 3.945

#114 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:30 pm

Per the numbers I keep, a couple of things happened by the end of the August 15 UTC day. First, the WPac has caught up to and just barely passed the EPac for the NHem ACE lead (74.065 vs 73.1025, respectively). Also, the NAtl has passed 10*10**4 kt**2, ending the day with 10.635.

*EDIT to fix slight mis-calculation.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 11.6875 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 73.355 - NIO - 3.945

#115 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:50 pm

Here's what I have using ATCF.

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Accumulated Cyclone Energy for Hurricane Gert (08L)
       Time    Intensity    Adv. ACE    Storm ACE
-----------  -----------  ----------  -----------
 2017081318           35      0.1225       0.1225
 2017081400           40      0.16         0.2825
 2017081406           40      0.16         0.4425
 2017081412           50      0.25         0.6925
 2017081418           60      0.36         1.0525
 2017081500           65      0.4225       1.475
 2017081506           65      0.4225       1.8975
 2017081512           65      0.4225       2.32
 2017081518           70      0.49         2.81
 2017081600           75      0.5625       3.3725


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Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name                  System ACE    Max Intensity
------------------  ------------  ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR]        0.81                 45
Bret (02L)                0.6875               40
Cindy (03L)               1.55                 50
Four (04L)                0                    25
Don (05L)                 0.6875               40
Emily (06L)               0.6075               45
Franklin (07L)            3.685                75
Gert (08L)                3.3725               75

Season Total             11.4


If the latest NHC forecast verified, it would add 4.25 additional ACE. That would put Gert at 7.63 and the August 4 - 18 period at 11.315, which would somehow verify Phil Klotzbach's above-average two week forecast that appeared doomed.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 11.6875 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 73.355 - NIO - 3.945

#116 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:09 pm

RL3AO wrote:Here's what I have using ATCF.

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Accumulated Cyclone Energy for Hurricane Gert (08L)
       Time    Intensity    Adv. ACE    Storm ACE
-----------  -----------  ----------  -----------
 2017081318           35      0.1225       0.1225
 2017081400           40      0.16         0.2825
 2017081406           40      0.16         0.4425
 2017081412           50      0.25         0.6925
 2017081418           60      0.36         1.0525
 2017081500           65      0.4225       1.475
 2017081506           65      0.4225       1.8975
 2017081512           65      0.4225       2.32
 2017081518           70      0.49         2.81
 2017081600           75      0.5625       3.3725


Code: Select all

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name                  System ACE    Max Intensity
------------------  ------------  ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR]        0.81                 45
Bret (02L)                0.6875               40
Cindy (03L)               1.55                 50
Four (04L)                0                    25
Don (05L)                 0.6875               40
Emily (06L)               0.6075               45
Franklin (07L)            3.685                75
Gert (08L)                3.3725               75

Season Total             11.4


If the latest NHC forecast verified, it would add 4.25 additional ACE. That would put Gert at 7.63 and the August 4 - 18 period at 11.315, which would somehow verify Phil Klotzbach's above-average two week forecast that appeared doomed.

Careful with your Emily calculation. The 45 kt maximum intensity was a 14Z off-hour fix, meaning it shouldn't count towards the system's ACE.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 11.6875 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 73.355 - NIO - 3.945

#117 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:25 pm

1900hurricane wrote:[
Careful with your Emily calculation. The 45 kt maximum intensity was a 14Z off-hour fix, meaning it shouldn't count towards the system's ACE.


I fixed that bug, but apparently, it was in a different script.
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 11.6875 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 73.355 - NIO - 3.945

#118 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:38 pm

Code: Select all

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name                  System ACE    Max Intensity
------------------  ------------  ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR]        0.81                 45
Bret (02L)                0.6875               40
Cindy (03L)               1.55                 50
Four (04L)                0                    25
Don (05L)                 0.6875               40
Emily (06L)               0.405                45
Franklin (07L)            3.685                75
Gert (08L)                3.3725               75

Season Total             11.1975


Does that match up with that you have 1900? Took a fun little bit of programming to check the string for synoptic times. :lol:
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#119 Postby 1900hurricane » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:01 pm

RL3AO wrote:

Code: Select all

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name                  System ACE    Max Intensity
------------------  ------------  ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR]        0.81                 45
Bret (02L)                0.6875               40
Cindy (03L)               1.55                 50
Four (04L)                0                    25
Don (05L)                 0.6875               40
Emily (06L)               0.405                45
Franklin (07L)            3.685                75
Gert (08L)                3.3725               75

Season Total             11.1975


Does that match up with that you have 1900? Took a fun little bit of programming to check the string for synoptic times. :lol:

Looks good, those are the numbers I have. Image
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Re: 2017 ACE: N.Atlantic - 11.6875 - EPAC - 73.0675 - WPAC - 73.355 - NIO - 3.945

#120 Postby Hammy » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:57 am

1900hurricane wrote:
RL3AO wrote:

Code: Select all

Atlantic Accumulated Cyclone Energy
Name                  System ACE    Max Intensity
------------------  ------------  ---------------
Arlene (01L) [TCR]        0.81                 45
Bret (02L)                0.6875               40
Cindy (03L)               1.55                 50
Four (04L)                0                    25
Don (05L)                 0.6875               40
Emily (06L)               0.405                45
Franklin (07L)            3.685                75
Gert (08L)                3.3725               75

Season Total             11.1975


Does that match up with that you have 1900? Took a fun little bit of programming to check the string for synoptic times. :lol:

Looks good, those are the numbers I have. Image


When was Emily 45kt? Advisory archive has 40.
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