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#401 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu May 25, 2017 9:46 am


Based on that graphic neutral years are the ones to watch
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#402 Postby cycloneye » Thu May 25, 2017 10:32 am

The best news from the NOAA news conference was that GOES-16 will move east. Yes!! http://www.noaa.gov/media-release/noaa- ... -east-fall
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#403 Postby Kazmit » Thu May 25, 2017 3:48 pm

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#404 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu May 25, 2017 5:23 pm

Ntxw wrote:There's nothing wrong with using 2005 as an analog, if warranted and conditions are basically clear of it. You are talking an extreme season, so likely the seasons leading up to it (1998-2004)could be quite active. Now thats a different story than having 2005 brought up every season for similarities, then it loses credibility.

Actually if you think about 2002-2004 were very active despite a couple of Ninos and a warm neutral leading up to 05. The Atlantic had plans otherwise Pacific or no Pacific


2005 was cool neutral to weak La Nina during the hurricane season I believe? Also I find seasons transitioning out of El Nino can be quite active.
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#405 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu May 25, 2017 6:46 pm


Could be a sign for later activity in the MDR
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#406 Postby Kingarabian » Thu May 25, 2017 6:49 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:
Kazmit wrote:The wave train begins!
[]https://twitter.com/TropicalTidbits/status/867834509194145793[/tweet]

Could be a sign for later activity in the MDR


I think these early season waves typically cross into the EPAC and develop there while the MDR and Caribbean gradually become more and more favorable.
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#407 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu May 25, 2017 6:57 pm

The GFS seems to be showing quite the active wave train and a tropical system in the MDR which wouldn't be without precedent as it happened in June 2003 but if the wave train continues strong we may have to watch for something like that
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#408 Postby cycloneye » Thu May 25, 2017 7:46 pm

Fairly decent wavetrain that extends from 50W to Ethiopia.

http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/xrit/000.0E ... _grid.jpeg
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#409 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu May 25, 2017 11:33 pm

cycloneye wrote:Fairly decent wavetrain that extends from 50W to Ethiopia.

http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/xrit/000.0E ... _grid.jpeg

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#410 Postby cycloneye » Fri May 26, 2017 5:13 am

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cycloneye wrote:Fairly decent wavetrain that extends from 50W to Ethiopia.

http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/xrit/000.0E ... _grid.jpeg

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#412 Postby NDG » Sat May 27, 2017 6:46 am

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#413 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat May 27, 2017 7:44 am


What exactly does this mean for the Atlantic hurricane season?
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#414 Postby NDG » Sat May 27, 2017 8:59 am



Big time subsidence over the western Atlantic Basin during this same time of the year in '09, no wonder it was so quiet May-early August.
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#415 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat May 27, 2017 9:12 am

NDG wrote:


Big time subsidence over the western Atlantic Basin during this same time of the year in '09, no wonder it was so quiet May-early August.

Does that mean the opposite is going to happen this year in the first few months of the season?
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#416 Postby NDG » Sat May 27, 2017 9:17 am

TheStormExpert wrote:

What exactly does this mean for the Atlantic hurricane season?


Good possibility if conditions don't change, IMO.
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#417 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat May 27, 2017 10:03 am

NDG wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:

What exactly does this mean for the Atlantic hurricane season?


Good possibility if conditions don't change, IMO.


Is he trying to say conditions are the same or similar to 2009? Those maps look different. Can someone explain what he is hinting at?
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#418 Postby TheAustinMan » Sat May 27, 2017 10:24 am

tarheelprogrammer wrote:Is he trying to say conditions are the same or similar to 2009? Those maps look different. Can someone explain what he is hinting at?


I believe that all that is being said is that the conditions modeled by the European ensembles for late May into early June are different than what was observed in 2009 (which, as he notes, is one possible analog for this year).

The maps show velocity potential anomalies at the 200hPa height. Velocity potential is a proxy for upper-level divergence and thus enhanced convection; blue areas indicate low velocity potential and thus greater upper-level divergence, red areas high velocity potential and thus lesser upper-level divergence. Concerning the Atlantic, the ECMWF ensemble indicates better VP200 anomalies for the basin compared to 2009, though VP200 anomalies depicted in the Eastern Pacific are favorable for enhanced convection there.
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#419 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun May 28, 2017 3:30 pm

Is it me or does it seem like we are stuck in a Spring-like weather pattern throughout the U.S.? I'm asking because wasn't 2013 stuck in Spring and look what happened that hurricane season.
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#420 Postby TheAustinMan » Sun May 28, 2017 3:54 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Is it me or does it seem like we are stuck in a Spring-like weather pattern throughout the U.S.? I'm asking because wasn't 2013 stuck in Spring and look what happened that hurricane season.


It is currently spring, and if the CFS Weekly is any indication, the cross country troughing will begin to pull north and taper as we transition through June.
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