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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#21 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:41 am

Shear looks way too strong but should bring a good amount of rainfall to some folks along the Gulf coast and Florida.
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#22 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:57 am

Maybe starting to see hint of a weak spin in the Western Gulf east of Mexico.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/flash-vis.html
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#23 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:12 am

It is actually spinning quite nicely already, but it is getting ready to meet the buzz saw. May have a brief chance to get to TD, but one thing I do know about TCs is that they struggle with shear.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico - June 2017

#24 Postby wxman22 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:38 pm

lrak wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:From the 8:02pm EDT Tropical Weather Discussion:

Expect a surface low to form over the Bay of Campeche Saturday, then move NW towards
southern Texas Sunday.

Sorry, didn't see this thread before posting in the Global Model Thread.


The model thread shows this going to Florida, why did they say it would move towards S. Tex?


The 12z GFS , NAM, and Canadian models does take a weak low towards the Texas coast fwiw.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico - June 2017

#25 Postby lrak » Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:51 pm

wxman22 wrote:
lrak wrote:
panamatropicwatch wrote:From the 8:02pm EDT Tropical Weather Discussion:

Expect a surface low to form over the Bay of Campeche Saturday, then move NW towards
southern Texas Sunday.

Sorry, didn't see this thread before posting in the Global Model Thread.


The model thread shows this going to Florida, why did they say it would move towards S. Tex?


The 12z GFS , NAM, and Canadian models does take a weak low towards the Texas coast fwiw.


Oh, ok thank you.
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Re: Gulf of Mexico - June 2017

#26 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:06 pm

wxman22 wrote:The 12z GFS , NAM, and Canadian models does take a weak low towards the Texas coast fwiw.


Right into the jet core.
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#27 Postby lrak » Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:12 pm

So no surf Mr. wxman57?
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#28 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:33 pm

Doubt we'll see much (if anything) from this disturbance. Good rain for FL though. We badly need it.
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#29 Postby weathaguyry » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:35 pm

If I were the NHC I would take out the yellow marker for the 8PM TWO
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#30 Postby boca » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:57 pm

Looks like some pretty strong thunderstorms off the Yucatán right now,definitely some energy down there I'm keeping my eye on it
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#31 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 03, 2017 6:53 am

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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#32 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:55 am

There seems to be a LLC in the B.O.C. It looks like storms are firing over it. :eek: Am I wrong?
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#33 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:56 am

Nice spin for sure...invest-worthy to me but shear is strong across the Gulf:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=12
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#34 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:58 am

gatorcane wrote:Nice spin for sure...invest-worthy to me but shear is strong across the Gulf:

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=12


Agreed. However, what is the ECMWF seeing to develop this? Does it lighten shear a little?
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#35 Postby RL3AO » Sat Jun 03, 2017 10:59 am

I believe if something is a 0%/10% in the 5-day genesis forecast, that the NHC won't put it in the TWO. It's possible that they're tracking it but we don't know it yet.
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#36 Postby srainhoutx » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:06 am

Surface analysis suggests a weak and highly sheared surface low has developed East of Veracruz and North of Tabasco. There is also a surface trough extending North of the low into South Texas and along the Middle and Upper Texas Coast. Those trough suggest the boundary and advancement of PW's near or slightly above 2.2 inches. Just a rainmaker and possibly some higher surf along the Texas and Louisiana Coasts, but no development expected at this time.
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#37 Postby Vince_and_Grace_fan » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:12 am

To me it seemed that Ex-Beatriz still had a well-defined low level circulation yesterday. It is possible that this is the same low (so Ex-Beatriz crossed over Mexico without dissipation)?

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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#38 Postby lrak » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:23 am

I've never seen this happen before if it did. Nice loop
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#39 Postby NDG » Sat Jun 03, 2017 11:50 am

Vince_and_Grace_fan wrote:To me it seemed that Ex-Beatriz still had a well-defined low level circulation yesterday. It is possible that this is the same low (so Ex-Beatriz crossed over Mexico without dissipation)?

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Is not the same surface but it is the same mid level vorticity from Beatriz that tracked across MX.
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Re: Western Gulf of Mexico Disturbance

#40 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jun 03, 2017 12:20 pm

Shear is very high for anything to develop.

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