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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#281 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:39 pm

12z Euro is similar to the 00z Euro, and actually similar to all the other past Euro runs that show a WGOM/BOC solution. Only difference is that it is developing an EPAC storm that looks to be stronger and creating unfavorable conditions for this system.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#282 Postby stormlover2013 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:49 pm

From Ryan maue: New GFS-parallel model curiously develops a tropical storm in central Gulf and takes it north into Florida. Not buying that at all.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#283 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:54 pm

When should we expect this to be tagged by the NHC?
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#284 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:06 pm

It's still a very broad area of convection in the Carib with some time to go before into the gulf. Models are decent 3 days out, some skill 5 days out and 7 or more is just a good guess. I wouldn't put too much stock into any runs yet at least until it gets out of the Yucatan. It will be slow that's for sure.

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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#285 Postby Tireman4 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:06 pm

Ntxw wrote:It's still a very broad area of convection in the Carib with some time to go before into the gulf. Models are decebt 3 days out, some skill 5 days out and 7 or more is just a good guess. I wouldn't put too much stock into any runs yet at least until it's gets out of the Yucatan. It will be slow that's for sure.

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I am thinking...wild guess...nothing much will happen until mid to late next week..
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#286 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:09 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:From Ryan maue: New GFS-parallel model curiously develops a tropical storm in central Gulf and takes it north into Florida. Not buying that at all.


Not just central Gulf but Eastern Gulf, MUCH different solution than the ECMWF but similar to the 12Z GFS non-parallel though that model didn't really develop a storm out of this in the Eastern Gulf but there was a distinct area of vorticity not present in the prior GFS runs.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#287 Postby tropicwatch » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:15 pm

Pretty nifty pressure drop at buoy 42057 16.908 N 81.422 W (16°54'30" N 81°25'18" W) from 1012.8mb to 1011mb past two hours.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#288 Postby Florida1118 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:16 pm

Tireman4 wrote:
Ntxw wrote:It's still a very broad area of convection in the Carib with some time to go before into the gulf. Models are decebt 3 days out, some skill 5 days out and 7 or more is just a good guess. I wouldn't put too much stock into any runs yet at least until it's gets out of the Yucatan. It will be slow that's for sure.



I am thinking...wild guess...nothing much will happen until mid to late next week..

Late next week it'll be inland somewhere. If it's going to do something, it'll have to do it by midweek or sooner.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#289 Postby NDG » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:59 pm

Wow, so the one overplaying the ridge all along has been the Euro, even on its short term.

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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#290 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:24 pm

12z Euro is back to flooding Louisiana again while keeping the LLC well south of the border. Very odd.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#291 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:59 pm

The models are such a mess right now; both the GFS and the ECMWF are showing multiple LLCs developing everywhere, preventing consolidation. Still far out.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#292 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:52 pm

There is a really good circulation evident with this now. It should be at least an invest by now IMHO.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#293 Postby BobHarlem » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:05 pm

18Z GFS Still showing a Florida Panhandle hit. (Although most of the rain is to the east)
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#294 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:31 pm

BobHarlem wrote:18Z GFS Still showing a Florida Panhandle hit. (Although most of the rain is to the east)

Basically shows a typical June slop storm but that would be par for the course in June
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#295 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:34 pm

It has been mentioned here locally that IF the latest euro runs come close to veryifying, and that's a big IF, could be similar to Frances '98 with much of south LA getting some pretty substational flooding. Not leaning any one way right now but trust the gfs the least.
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#296 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:36 pm

12z GEFS favors the eastern GOMEX.

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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#297 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:38 pm

Parallel MU shifts east in the EGOM and is stronger

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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#298 Postby ROCK » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:52 pm

Just love when GFS shows almost an opposite solution compared to the EURO..:)
NAVGEM 12Z- weak up into Tx
UKMET 12z- similar

It's a soupy mess right now..
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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#299 Postby ROCK » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:55 pm

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Re: Possible development in Western Caribbean

#300 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:58 pm

I hope to have a pretty good idea where this thing is going by next Wednesday...
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