Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands (INVEST 94L is up)

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#321 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:06 pm

I see two areas of spin looking at this loop below. Which one is the one the GFS develops. The one on the right of the screen is the most impressive to my eyes.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop_meteosat.asp?data_folder=tropical/tropical_met_4km_visir2_floater&width=640&height=480&number_of_images_to_display=12
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#322 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:17 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:I see two areas of spin looking at this loop below. Which one is the one the GFS develops. The one on the right of the screen is the most impressive to my eyes.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop_meteosat.asp?data_folder=tropical/tropical_met_4km_visir2_floater&width=640&height=480&number_of_images_to_display=12


We will have the best info about location when is designated a Invest.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#323 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:20 pm

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tarheelprogrammer wrote:I see two areas of spin looking at this loop below. Which one is the one the GFS develops. The one on the right of the screen is the most impressive to my eyes.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop_meteosat.asp?data_folder=tropical/tropical_met_4km_visir2_floater&width=640&height=480&number_of_images_to_display=12


We will have the best info about location when is designated a Invest.


Any idea when that will happen? It seems like it is worthy of an invest tag in my opinion, and I am just wondering.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#324 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:25 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
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tarheelprogrammer wrote:I see two areas of spin looking at this loop below. Which one is the one the GFS develops. The one on the right of the screen is the most impressive to my eyes.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop_meteosat.asp?data_folder=tropical/tropical_met_4km_visir2_floater&width=640&height=480&number_of_images_to_display=12


We will have the best info about location when is designated a Invest.


Any idea when that will happen? It seems like it is worthy of an invest tag in my opinion, and I am just wondering.


A good clue about that is the 8 PM TWO on the language and if they go up from 10%-50%.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#325 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:26 pm

It's a lot more NE in its positioning @ 168hrs compared to the 12z run. Ridge is displaced east compared to it being more west at 12z.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#326 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:29 pm

Looks like a very complex genesis to me, which is probably why the ECMWF is struggling. On the GFS, I see two waves resulting in the development of this system: The one by 30W and the one near 15W.

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#327 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:30 pm

Ridge looks off... interesting.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#328 Postby blp » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:32 pm

Kingarabian wrote:It's a lot more NE in its positioning @ 168hrs compared to the 12z run. Ridge is displaced east compared to it being more west at 12z.


I see a different setup than the 12z which had a digging trough. 18z splits out a cut off low and digs South. I don't think this one will eject out as quickly. We have like 40 runs to figure this out so it is early. Let's see what happens.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#329 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:42 pm

OTS even sooner on the GFS as a strong cat 2 or borderline cat 3.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#330 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:53 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:OTS even sooner on the GFS as a strong cat 2 or borderline cat 3.

well that's good news.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#331 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:54 pm

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#332 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:54 pm

blp wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:It's a lot more NE in its positioning @ 168hrs compared to the 12z run. Ridge is displaced east compared to it being more west at 12z.


I see a different setup than the 12z which had a digging trough. 18z splits out a cut off low and digs South. I don't think this one will eject out as quickly. We have like 40 runs to figure this out so it is early. Let's see what happens.


Agreed. I'm in the more western camp. Euro seemed to have a ridge building back in @ the 240hr mark in its 12z run as well.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#333 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:56 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:OTS even sooner on the GFS as a strong cat 2 or borderline cat 3.

well that's good news.


Yeah or it could get really bad for some people on the SE coastline or the mid-Atlantic. At least according to the GFS-OP.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#334 Postby cycloneye » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:58 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:OTS even sooner on the GFS as a strong cat 2 or borderline cat 3.

well that's good news.


Except that Bermuda is in the path.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#335 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:06 pm

cycloneye wrote:
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tarheelprogrammer wrote:OTS even sooner on the GFS as a strong cat 2 or borderline cat 3.

well that's good news.


Except that Bermuda is in the path.


Bermuda's been rocked every year since 2014: Fay, Gonzalo, Joaquin, and then Nicole last year.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#336 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:10 pm

cycloneye wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:OTS even sooner on the GFS as a strong cat 2 or borderline cat 3.

well that's good news.


Except that Bermuda is in the path.

well then that's bad news.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#337 Postby floridasun78 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:24 pm

i think starting get more storm doing day let see if get more storm tonight wee see invest by mon
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#338 Postby RL3AO » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:35 pm

Long Term Watch: The Euro and GFS are starting to agree on the ridge over the Rockies being more amplified leading to a stronger downstream trough. That would be good news for those along the coast.

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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#339 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:40 pm

With all the fronts swinging through the NE U.S. regularly for the past many several months it's very hard in my opinion to see this making it to the U.S. east coast.
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Re: Strong Tropical Wave WSW of CV Islands

#340 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:45 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:With all the fronts swinging through the NE U.S. regularly for the past many several months it's very hard in my opinion to see this making it to the U.S. east coast.


Yea, but I'd say that's the case for any wave rolling off Africa.
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