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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#821 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:39 pm

Very good call on the NHC's part to only call 0/20, since model support is quickly diminishing for this!
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#822 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:43 pm

Now down to 0/10
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#823 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:45 pm

One of these days we will see a hurricane in July, just not this year.
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#824 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:50 pm

Btw, why does SAL and dry air always peak in July?

Also what caused July of 2008 to have a Cape Verde major along with another hurricane and a TS?
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#825 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:03 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:Btw, why does SAL and dry air always peak in July?


The North Atlantic Azores high peaks in July and early August with the summer season. At it's greatest strength below the subtropics in the MDR the flow around that high creates strong easterly winds which is 1. A cooling wind and 2. Easterly shear. Waves tends to move too fast for development during this period and dust is blown off Africa via the clockwise flow of the high.
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#826 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:08 pm

July usually tends to be a snooze fest, in years like 2004, 2012, and 2016 there was no July activity. In 2010 there was only one TD and a TS in July, so we are nowhere abnormally low in terms of activity, and the fact that it is only July 10th and we already had a TS and a TD in the MDR is pretty amazing if you ask me :D
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#827 Postby storminabox » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:18 pm

nativefloridian wrote:IMO....the models are too fickle to put any trust in them until there's something substantial for them to lock on to. Until then, I won't trust any run. One run a hurricane, another run a tropical storm, another run....nothing! It's become very frustrating to me. So I just sit on the sidelines and wait to see what happens down the road. I, for one, refuse to acknowledge any model runs until there's some meat behind it. Again, just my opinion....and thank you for letting me vent a little bit! :)


I feel like that's a good way to go about this for now
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#828 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:13 pm

Evening Larry,

Did not mean to seem as if I took it as directed at me. I was just puling your chain a bit, yes all we can do is see what the future models and satellite show.
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#829 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:32 pm

GFS is about to run, are we going to get some monster thing that wipes out a hefty portion of the SEUS, or will we get something that is weak and dies in the ECARIB graveyard? We shall see...
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#830 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:36 pm

Smaller and less defined at 24hrs. on the GFS
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#831 Postby USTropics » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:37 pm

At 24 hours, the 00z GFS is again trending weaker (more of a stretched out vorticity this run). Here are the last 4 runs of the GFS at 24hrs:

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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#832 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:39 pm

Yep, much weaker at 30 hours, there goes the last bit of support for development :D
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#833 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:47 pm

Gone at 48 hours, bravo GFS :roflmao:
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#834 Postby USTropics » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:55 pm

One additional inhibiting factor in the short range that I've noticed on the past few GFS runs (and the hi-rez ECMWF run) is a competing vorticity to the south. You can see it on the GFS run and currently on CIMS's 850mb vorticity map. This wasn't as pronounced on the previous GFS runs that developed the wave as it approached the islands.

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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#835 Postby weathaguyry » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:57 pm

That GFS upgrade couldn't come soon enough, this was a HUGE bust for the model
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#836 Postby USTropics » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:59 pm

weathaguyry wrote:That GFS upgrade couldn't come soon enough, this was a HUGE bust for the model


But also a big win the for the GFS-Para, which will replace the current GFS operational in less than a week. The GFS couldn't resist blowing up most of the GOM, Florida, and EC (and a few Mexico/Texas runs too) one more time on it's way out :lol:
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#837 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:10 pm

Yeah looks like nothing to see here folks. We could go all of July without Don it looks like.
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#838 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:17 pm

GFS fail, can't wait for the upgrade as it seems to have less phantom storms, this was a phantom storm and the silly part is it was a 48hr phantom storm which makes the current version look like a joke and even the Canadian model had little development so we can say the GFS has what looks like a parametric issue
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#839 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:46 pm

I cannot wait for GFS-Para upgrade.


#MakeGFSGreatAgain :lol:
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Re: Tropical Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#840 Postby Brent » Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:00 am

Just like that the TWO is blank...

Better luck in August :lol:
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