Caribbean Tropical Wave along 65W (Potential BOC System) (Is INVEST 90L)

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Caribbean Tropical Wave along 65W (Potential BOC System) (Is INVEST 90L)

#1 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:18 pm

This is the one the models are off and on developing not the one in the other thread and doesn't look too bad on visible satellite just lacks some convection, can it come to life we'll see by saturday
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Re: Wave over west Africa

#2 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:07 pm

The 18zGFS seems to develop this some at 120hrs as it has a small closed low
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Re: Wave over west Africa

#3 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:26 pm

I honestly think this is one those weeks where the models develop the wave already in the MDR and then after a couple of days it starts to favor the one just leaving Africa and then ultimately not developing either one. Rinse and Repeat.
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Re: Wave over west Africa

#4 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:26 am

I'd say watch this one as this is the one the models develop
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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#5 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:38 pm

12Z ECMWF completely drops development.
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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#6 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:40 pm

gatorcane wrote:12Z ECMWF completely drops development.


The Euro has been doing this the last few days where it shows development on 0z and drops it on the 12z


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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#7 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:51 pm

Seriously, why does it develop and then drop almost immediately...? I get that forecasting so far out is based on pattern and different set of variables and that the atmosphere is always fluid but for something to develop only for it to drop it means something just isn't right.


Maybe I'm just going crazy.
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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#8 Postby Hammy » Fri Jul 28, 2017 3:54 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:
gatorcane wrote:12Z ECMWF completely drops development.


The Euro has been doing this the last few days where it shows development on 0z and drops it on the 12z


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Could be improperly handling dmin/max.
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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#9 Postby USTropics » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:50 pm

GFS 00z showing slight development at 72 hours:

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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#10 Postby USTropics » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:07 pm

Short lived, GFS opens it back up into a wave at 120 hours:

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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#11 Postby Alyono » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:47 pm

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 42 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 42 : 11.2N 30.8W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 31.07.2017 48 11.9N 31.1W 1012 25
1200UTC 31.07.2017 60 13.0N 34.2W 1011 28
0000UTC 01.08.2017 72 13.4N 38.4W 1011 28
1200UTC 01.08.2017 84 13.2N 42.7W 1010 28
0000UTC 02.08.2017 96 13.3N 46.6W 1009 29
1200UTC 02.08.2017 108 13.2N 50.2W 1009 31
0000UTC 03.08.2017 120 13.8N 53.7W 1009 31
1200UTC 03.08.2017 132 14.7N 57.0W 1008 36
0000UTC 04.08.2017 144 15.4N 59.5W 1005 42
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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#12 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:58 pm

Might have to lemon this area
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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#13 Postby USTropics » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:10 am

00z ECMWF joining the club with some weak development in 72 hours:

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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#14 Postby USTropics » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:29 am

Maintains development through 144 hours:

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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#15 Postby USTropics » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:00 am

The 00z ECMWF run has a similar solution to the 00z GFS (a short lived cyclone that succumbs to conditions later in the forecast period), slight difference is it doesn't open into a wave until around 168 hours. Another one bites the dust?

At the end of the run, our wave is just north of PR:

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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#16 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:10 am

Alyono wrote:NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 42 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 42 : 11.2N 30.8W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
0000UTC 31.07.2017 48 11.9N 31.1W 1012 25
1200UTC 31.07.2017 60 13.0N 34.2W 1011 28
0000UTC 01.08.2017 72 13.4N 38.4W 1011 28
1200UTC 01.08.2017 84 13.2N 42.7W 1010 28
0000UTC 02.08.2017 96 13.3N 46.6W 1009 29
1200UTC 02.08.2017 108 13.2N 50.2W 1009 31
0000UTC 03.08.2017 120 13.8N 53.7W 1009 31
1200UTC 03.08.2017 132 14.7N 57.0W 1008 36
0000UTC 04.08.2017 144 15.4N 59.5W 1005 42


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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#17 Postby Nimbus » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:27 am

That would be the mid point position for the 850MB circulation to the east of (EX)97L?
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Re: Wave SE of CV islands

#18 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:27 am

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 AM EDT Sat Jul 29 2017

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

A tropical wave that recently moved over the Cabo Verde Islands is
moving westward at 10 to 15 mph. Some development of this system is
possible next week while the wave moves across the tropical
Atlantic.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.

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Re: Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#19 Postby gatorcane » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:54 am

12Z GFS running now looks to be trending toward the ECMWF on development now.
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Re: Wave WSW of Cabo Verde Islands

#20 Postby Siker » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:21 am

UKMET continues to trend stronger:

NEW TROPICAL CYCLONE FORECAST TO DEVELOP AFTER 42 HOURS
FORECAST POSITION AT T+ 42 : 12.8N 33.3W

LEAD CENTRAL MAXIMUM WIND
VERIFYING TIME TIME POSITION PRESSURE (MB) SPEED (KNOTS)
-------------- ---- -------- ------------- -------------
1200UTC 31.07.2017 48 13.0N 34.9W 1011 28
0000UTC 01.08.2017 60 13.1N 38.8W 1011 30
1200UTC 01.08.2017 72 12.5N 42.5W 1009 28
0000UTC 02.08.2017 84 12.7N 45.4W 1009 28
1200UTC 02.08.2017 96 13.1N 48.4W 1009 30
0000UTC 03.08.2017 108 14.1N 51.4W 1008 29
1200UTC 03.08.2017 120 15.7N 54.1W 1008 39
0000UTC 04.08.2017 132 16.8N 56.3W 1004 46
1200UTC 04.08.2017 144 18.0N 57.7W 997 54
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