2017 Cyclones Retirement: New names are: Harold / Idalia / Margot / Nigel

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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#41 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:17 pm

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CrazyC83 wrote:Looks like we will be looking for a new female M name as well. Last time three names were retired was 2008.

Names NOT available for that: Madeline, Maria, Marie, Marilyn, Melissa, Michelle, Miriam, Mindy



Monica, Miranda, Mia, Melanie, Mireille, Marisa, Marcia, Martha, Marsha, Molly, Mel, Megan, Magda... there are 1000 candidates.


Molly and Meredith would be my top two choices.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#42 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:19 pm

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EquusStorm wrote:The big two are obviously already a shoe-in for never being seen again, but so far it looks like just the two for now. Franklin seemed to be very mild and Katia's two deaths were vastly overshadowed by the earthquake striking at pretty much the same time; unless Jose rides the coast or bombs out and hits the Canadian Maritimes, it has caused little direct damage despite its intensity and the island evacuation.

One thing I DO realize though after a couple decades of Atlantic-watching, is that every time a storm of any intensity comes within hundreds of miles of a French-owned island or territory, their WMO delegation immediately starts coming up with replacement names... :ggreen:

Three days later...


Hah, posted here a little too early obviously. Definitely three now... and honestly if we keep up the pace through October, might not be all.
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...but still, though, a lot more interesting than the 2013 season.

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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#43 Postby Blinhart » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:55 pm

What is the record for most storms to be retired in one season? I would think 2005.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#44 Postby 1900hurricane » Mon Sep 18, 2017 8:57 pm

Blinhart wrote:What is the record for most storms to be retired in one season? I would think 2005.

Yep, that one had five (Dennis, Katrina, Rita, Stan, and Wilma).
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#45 Postby Torino » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:01 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
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CrazyC83 wrote:Looks like we will be looking for a new female M name as well. Last time three names were retired was 2008.

Names NOT available for that: Madeline, Maria, Marie, Marilyn, Melissa, Michelle, Miriam, Mindy



Monica, Miranda, Mia, Melanie, Mireille, Marisa, Marcia, Martha, Marsha, Molly, Mel, Megan, Magda... there are 1000 candidates.


Molly and Meredith would be my top two choices.


Mine are Harold, Ilsa and Monica to replace Harvey, Irma and Maria.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#46 Postby EquusStorm » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:31 pm

I like Ilsa as a name but as Elsa is on the list for 2022, it'd be doubtful... then again, they replaced Fabian (replacing Frederic) with Fred, Katrina with Katia, and Rita with Rina, lol.

I reiterate, we are running out of usable 'I' names very quickly
(I mean, at least within the constraints of the cultural name origins we usually use in the Atlantic)
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...but still, though, a lot more interesting than the 2013 season.

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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#47 Postby HurricaneRyan » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:41 pm

I prefer Megan. Fits well between Lee and Nate
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#48 Postby Blinhart » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:33 am

HurricaneRyan wrote:I prefer Megan. Fits well between Lee and Nate


That is if Nate isn't retired also, we haven't seen him yet and don't know where he will form and where he might hit.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#49 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:25 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
Torino wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:Looks like we will be looking for a new female M name as well. Last time three names were retired was 2008.

Names NOT available for that: Madeline, Maria, Marie, Marilyn, Melissa, Michelle, Miriam, Mindy



Monica, Miranda, Mia, Melanie, Mireille, Marisa, Marcia, Martha, Marsha, Molly, Mel, Megan, Magda... there are 1000 candidates.


Molly and Meredith would be my top two choices.


I vote for Magda...that screams TC
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#50 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:26 pm

1900hurricane wrote:
Blinhart wrote:What is the record for most storms to be retired in one season? I would think 2005.

Yep, that one had five (Dennis, Katrina, Rita, Stan, and Wilma).


It should have been 6...I still wonder how Emily wasnt retired that year
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#51 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:29 pm

EquusStorm wrote:I like Ilsa as a name but as Elsa is on the list for 2022, it'd be doubtful... then again, they replaced Fabian (replacing Frederic) with Fred, Katrina with Katia, and Rita with Rina, lol.

I reiterate, we are running out of usable 'I' names very quickly
(I mean, at least within the constraints of the cultural name origins we usually use in the Atlantic)


I dont think we have used Ivanka :lol:
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#52 Postby chaser1 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:56 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
Torino wrote:

Monica, Miranda, Mia, Melanie, Mireille, Marisa, Marcia, Martha, Marsha, Molly, Mel, Megan, Magda... there are 1000 candidates.


Molly and Meredith would be my top two choices.


I vote for Magda...that screams TC


Great TC name!
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#53 Postby chaser1 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:59 pm

EquusStorm wrote:I like Ilsa as a name but as Elsa is on the list for 2022, it'd be doubtful... then again, they replaced Fabian (replacing Frederic) with Fred, Katrina with Katia, and Rita with Rina, lol.

I reiterate, we are running out of usable 'I' names very quickly
(I mean, at least within the constraints of the cultural name origins we usually use in the Atlantic)


"Inga" perhaps?
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#54 Postby HurricaneRyan » Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:59 pm

ScottNAtlanta wrote:
EquusStorm wrote:I like Ilsa as a name but as Elsa is on the list for 2022, it'd be doubtful... then again, they replaced Fabian (replacing Frederic) with Fred, Katrina with Katia, and Rita with Rina, lol.

I reiterate, we are running out of usable 'I' names very quickly
(I mean, at least within the constraints of the cultural name origins we usually use in the Atlantic)


I dont think we have used Ivanka :lol:


Not when Degrassi's Imogen Moreno provides us with a great I name.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#55 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:34 pm

This whole list may be close to used up soon.

We still have the original N, O and P names (Nate, Ophelia and Philippe) and those will likely be peak to shoulder season storms - hard not to imagine at least one of them being severe at this rate. Then the R, S and W names were all retired in 2005.

As of now, List 3 has 11 originals remaining - their letters are A, B, C, E, G, J, N, O, P, T and V. A lot of those are easy to reach in even an average hurricane season. Other than Tammy and Vince, the whole list could be close to used up within a generation. If 2023 is not too active but with a number of bad storms (we should still have Arlene, Bret, Cindy, Emily, Gert and Jose among originals, despite eating up the middle and bottom of the alphabet)...
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#56 Postby Torino » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:57 pm

I think Elsa and Ilsa are pronounced differently: "El-suh", and "Eeel-suh" or "Eeel-zah".
But they added Julian last year to replace Joaquin, and Julia is in the next list, so why not?

I have a feeling that Monica, Martha or Magda will be Maria's replacement. Monica and Magda have been recently retired from Australia's lists. Martha was used once before, in 1969.
Back in May, I betted on Irma, Jose, Maria and Philippe. I've got only Jose wrong so far.
I also think we will see one more name to retire this year.

About Emily's retirement, I believe Mexico was too busy dealing with Stan and Wilma to care about a July storm. However, I do agree it should've been retired.
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#57 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:00 pm

Torino wrote:I think Elsa and Ilsa are pronounced differently: "El-suh", and "Eeel-suh" or "Eeel-zah".
But they added Julian last year to replace Joaquin, and Julia is in the next list, so why not?

I have a feeling that Monica, Martha or Magda will be Maria's replacement. Monica and Magda have been recently retired from Australia's lists. Martha was used once before, in 1969.
I also think we will see one more name to retire this year. Back in May, I betted on Irma, Jose, Maria and Philippe. I've got only Jose wrong.

About Emily's retirement, I believe Mexico was too busy dealing with Stan and Wilma to care about a July storm. However, I do agree it should've been retired.


If Jose is upgraded to cat 5 post season, it will be only the fourth named cat 5 (or third if Edith is downgraded in reanalysis) to not be retired. Carol was retired the next use though, and we have talked about Emily a lot. But even still, Jose would not have a legitimate retirement case.
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#58 Postby Extratropical94 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:08 pm

Lists 3 and 4 haven't had a letter retired twice. With the likely retirement of Irma that will change. Next year the only non-original names will be Gordon, Joyce, Kirk and Sara.

Here's an overview I've put together of all lists with their first generation (original), second gen (retired once) and third gen (retired twice) names. (Color coding does not apply to the old female name lists.)

Years next to the lists indicate how far down the list we went in that season. Years next to retired names show the year when that name was retired.

Feel free to correct any mistakes if you spot them. :D

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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#59 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:09 pm

Unless a miracle happens and it’s not that bad for Puerto Rico (which unfortunately doesn’t seem to be the case), Maria will likely be the 3rd storm being retired from this Atlantic storm name list next spring. Even if it was to not be that bad for Puerto Rico you still have the devastating from Dominica which should guarantee a retirement. What a bad season it’s turning out to be. :(
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Re: 2017 Cyclones Retirement

#60 Postby chaser1 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:21 pm

Torino wrote:I think Elsa and Ilsa are pronounced differently: "El-suh", and "Eeel-suh" or "Eeel-zah".
But they added Julian last year to replace Joaquin, and Julia is in the next list, so why not?

I have a feeling that Monica, Martha or Magda will be Maria's replacement. Monica and Magda have been recently retired from Australia's lists. Martha was used once before, in 1969.
Back in May, I betted on Irma, Jose, Maria and Philippe. I've got only Jose wrong so far.
I also think we will see one more name to retire this year.

About Emily's retirement, I believe Mexico was too busy dealing with Stan and Wilma to care about a July storm. However, I do agree it should've been retired.


"Hurricane Magda" just has that annihilation sound to her lol.
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