2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1741 Postby SoupBone » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:59 pm

So on this 00Z run, it has a system forming right off the tip of the Yucatan, and has it head north toward the Eastern GoM, toward the Florida Panhandle. No Texas system this time.

EDIT: Actually, looking at it in motion, I think that's 92L that then regenerates.


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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1742 Postby Cpv17 » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:45 am

SoupBone wrote:So on this 00Z run, it has a system forming right off the tip of the Yucatan, and has it head north toward the Eastern GoM, toward the Florida Panhandle. No Texas system this time.

EDIT: Actually, looking at it in motion, I think that's 92L that then regenerates.


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Yeah that’s 92L. 0z GFS has the system around hour 204-240, but doesn’t do anything with it.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1743 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:11 am

SoupBone wrote:
NDG wrote:
SoupBone wrote:

"The GFS and some ensemble members from the European model suggest that tropical cyclone development is possible over the western Gulf of Mexico during Week-2, which has been indicated in our forecast."

So they're basing is strictly from model runs?


That should not be a surprise to you, forecasters do that all the time based off models.



It's not. Maybe I should rephrase the question. Are there other factors besides the GFS and a few ensembles used to add this as a moderate threat on the chart?


I am sure they are also considering climatology, the BOC is usually a hot spot this time of the year.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1744 Postby GCANE » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:21 am

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1745 Postby JPmia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:57 am

I know none of the models have indicated such a concern yet, but should we be concerned about the Upper Low in the Bahamas?

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/satlooper.php?region=nwatl&product=ir
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1746 Postby NDG » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:26 pm

JPmia wrote:I know none of the models have indicated such a concern yet, but should we be concerned about the Upper Low in the Bahamas?

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/sat/satlooper.php?region=nwatl&product=ir


The only model support with development is the Canadian, so chances are very small. IMO.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1747 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:36 pm

:uarrow: I will point out that there is definitely an increase in convection over the Bahamas today compared to yesterday. We are in the peak of the season right now, and this area being close to the the Southeast Atlantic coast warrants monitoring.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1748 Postby JPmia » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:36 pm

northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: I will point out that there is definitely an increase in convection over the Bahamas today compared to yesterday. We are in the peak of the season right now, and this area being close to the the Southeast Atlantic coast warrants monitoring.


It definitely looks suspicious.
http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1749 Postby MetroMike » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:52 pm

JPmia wrote:
northjaxpro wrote::uarrow: I will point out that there is definitely an increase in convection over the Bahamas today compared to yesterday. We are in the peak of the season right now, and this area being close to the the Southeast Atlantic coast warrants monitoring.


It definitely looks suspicious.
http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/

The link is just the homepage. Anything more specific?
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1750 Postby wxman22 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:26 pm

Even though models have backed off on development of the wave that gets into the western Gulf late next week,it still should be watched imo as an increasing number of the Euro ensembles are developing a system out of it.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1751 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:39 pm

The African wave train looks to be not done yet either - the system behind Helene really needs to be watched too. Could a system actually develop before leaving Africa?
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1752 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat Sep 08, 2018 2:07 am

CrazyC83 wrote:The African wave train looks to be not done yet either - the system behind Helene really needs to be watched too. Could a system actually develop before leaving Africa?

Models though aren’t enthusiastic with anything behind Florence, Helene, and potential Isaac.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1753 Postby HurricaneEric » Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:41 pm

CMC (yes, I know) seems to think something else will be coming off Africa in hours 210-216. GFS and Euro have showed zilch after the Florence/Helene/Isaac triad.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1754 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:35 pm

1pm EDT Monday: Due to abnormal traffic, some model products are populating slowly right now. I'm working on the issue.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1755 Postby HurricaneEric » Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:43 pm

Is this an upper level low off the US east coast at hr 168 of the 12z Euro?

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GFS Showing Low at hour 384

#1756 Postby sphelps8681 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:02 pm

GFS is showing at hour 384 a low near the yucatan. 999 entering the GOM. I know it is so fantasy at this point but maybe something to watch.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1757 Postby HurricaneEric » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:20 pm

To add to that, this was hour 240 on the 12z Euro... looks like a wave makes the splash down off the African coast at a pretty low latitude. If anything, the models are starting to hint that the activity may still continue to the end of September.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1758 Postby CyclonicFury » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:21 pm

HurricaneEric wrote:To add to that, this was hour 240 on the 12z Euro... looks like a wave makes the splash down off the African coast at a pretty low latitude. If anything, the models are starting to hint that the activity may still continue to the end of September.

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:uarrow: I wouldn't be surprised if we squeezed out one more storm from the MDR before the end of September, which would probably be the last of the year.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1759 Postby Kazmit » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:01 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:
HurricaneEric wrote:To add to that, this was hour 240 on the 12z Euro... looks like a wave makes the splash down off the African coast at a pretty low latitude. If anything, the models are starting to hint that the activity may still continue to the end of September.

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:uarrow: I wouldn't be surprised if we squeezed out one more storm from the MDR before the end of September, which would probably be the last of the year.

Why would it be the last of the year? There are still two more months of hurricane season after that.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1760 Postby CyclonicFury » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:05 pm

Kazmit wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:
HurricaneEric wrote:To add to that, this was hour 240 on the 12z Euro... looks like a wave makes the splash down off the African coast at a pretty low latitude. If anything, the models are starting to hint that the activity may still continue to the end of September.

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:uarrow: I wouldn't be surprised if we squeezed out one more storm from the MDR before the end of September, which would probably be the last of the year.

Why would it be the last of the year? There are still two more months of hurricane season after that.

I'm not talking about the last storm of the Atlantic, I expect several more. I am talking about the MDR specifically which rarely has activity after the end of September.
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