2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1381 Postby wxGuy » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:31 pm

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1382 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:34 pm

wxGuy wrote:https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2018082112/gfs_mslp_uv850_atl_53.png


So obviously take it with a grain of salt but steering as shown by the 16-day GFS, looks ominous with a huge area of high pressure over Southern Canada and northern US with ridging over the subtropical Western Atlantic:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1383 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:58 pm

Models coming alive :D
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1384 Postby Sambucol » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:08 pm

gatorcane wrote:
wxGuy wrote:https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2018082112/gfs_mslp_uv850_atl_53.png


So obviously take it with a grain of salt but steering as shown by the 16-day GFS, looks ominous with a huge area of high pressure over Southern Canada and northern US with ridging over the subtropical Western Atlantic:

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Where would that cause a hurricane to steer? More to the west?
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1385 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:11 pm

oh yeah, prob GOM
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1386 Postby Sambucol » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:17 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:oh yeah, prob GOM


Thank you. I’m on the upper Texas coast.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1387 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:18 pm

same here but long range models u can't trust them
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1388 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:58 pm

12Z ECMWF with a strong area of low pressure near the Cabo Verde islands at 240 hours:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1389 Postby Hurricane Mike » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:07 pm

gatorcane wrote:
wxGuy wrote:https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2018082112/gfs_mslp_uv850_atl_53.png


So obviously take it with a grain of salt but steering as shown by the 16-day GFS, looks ominous with a huge area of high pressure over Southern Canada and northern US with ridging over the subtropical Western Atlantic:

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Wow talk about a Miami to Corpus-type track setup should anything occur.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1390 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:15 pm

:uarrow: CFS has a similar setup, developing one system on the 29th and a second on Sep 1-2, and turns the first one north through a weakness in the ridge, and sends the second into the Bahamas by the 10th (before turning out to sea on this run)
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1391 Postby LarryWx » Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:19 pm

gatorcane wrote:12Z ECMWF with a strong area of low pressure near the Cabo Verde islands at 240 hours:

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Consistent with the 12Z Euro operational, about 20% of the 50 EPS (~10) members have a TC form in the far E MDR ~Sept. 1 moving W to WNW. 4 of those 10 geneses go down to sub 990 mb (i.e., likely hurricanes). By day 15 (9/5), the TCs are mainly between 40W and 50W with some safely recurving N of 20N while others are still between 15N and 20N moving mainly WNW. None of these were on the 0Z EPS.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1392 Postby SFLcane » Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:58 pm

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1393 Postby galaxy401 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:11 pm

Are models still showing that nontropical storm heading to the Bahamas or did they drop that?
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1394 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:18 pm

CFS showing a flat ridge but seems to show recurves at day 16. Maybe set up is changing?
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1395 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:50 pm

GFS backing off MDR activity through 264 hours (albeit a tad stronger with the wave in the western MDR) but now has a system in the Gulf.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1396 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:50 pm

Something in the GOM on 18Z GFS in long-range:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1397 Postby gatorcane » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:57 pm

In the GFS super-long range looks busy:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1398 Postby wxGuy » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:13 pm

GFS showing 05' like path similar to Katrina, Rita watch the looop
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1399 Postby wxGuy » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:17 pm

either way tropics are waking up and so are the models :sun:
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1400 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:31 pm

Cape Verde season usually starts up around now. The 18z GFS shows 2 lows from origins in that source region. It wouldn’t be a burst per se, but if it was to be right and follow an Eastpac system with a NW Gulf landfall, the 3rd system would likely be east of there. Run goes out to the end of the first week in September which is within a few days of the peak.
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