2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1821 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:03 pm

18z FV-3 GFS has a strengthening 982mb hurricane heading north just east of Jamaica @ 384hrs.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1822 Postby TheStormExpert » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:04 pm

boca wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:Its trying to pull a Wilma on the GFS if you account for truncation. If something that strong happens the Western Caribbean is the place to do it unfortunately


Classic Western Caribbean October monster on simulated IR...thankfully 384 hours out: :eek:

But it could be a large storm if it develops, the model expands it as it pulls out of the NW Caribbean:

https://i.postimg.cc/bvkTL36d/gfs_ir_watl_53.png


How do you get that superimposed pic from the GFS model?

On the Tropical Tidbits model page go to the GFS model and under the Upper Dynamics section click Simulated IR Satellite.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1823 Postby SoupBone » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:53 pm

canes92 wrote:What general path do the models show the storms taking? Towards Gulf, TX or FL?



Of course this is way too far out to have even the slightest bit of certainty, but generally speaking, the beginning of October, Texas starts getting cool fronts, slowly closing the door to Texas threats. It does and has happened though, but as we creep closer to October, a Texas threat decreases. Factually, Texas has historically only had two hurricanes between 1900 and 2000 in October.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1824 Postby AutoPenalti » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:43 pm

Looks like no development on the 00Z but the EPAC now has a major.

EDIT: Actually timing for development has been pushed back, now has a strengthening TS heading NW towards the Cayman Islands and Cuba.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1825 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:01 am

Growing consensus on something forming in the W. Caribbean moving North.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1826 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:05 am

:uarrow: Though not as active as the very active Happy Hour GEFS (no surprise), the 0Z GEFS still has a decent # of TS+s
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1827 Postby AutoPenalti » Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:53 am

GFS 06z now has something crossing over from the EPAC and intensifying moving N towards the Florida Keys.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1828 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:23 am

06z gfs has a sheared mess over SFL this might be the outcome when it’s all said and done. That’s the hope at least we will take a rainy few days
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1829 Postby toad strangler » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:26 am

SFLcane wrote:06z gfs has a sheared mess over SFL this might be the outcome when it’s all said and done. That’s the hope at least we will take a rainy few days



Way too early. But nothing wrong with a little hope lol.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1830 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:33 am

SFLcane wrote:06z gfs has a sheared mess over SFL this might be the outcome when it’s all said and done. That’s the hope at least we will take a rainy few days

Yeah I can’t help but think we will either see a repeat performance of Hurricane Nate or short-lived TS Philippe from last October.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1831 Postby toad strangler » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:35 am

6z GEFS Ensembles signaling low pressure beginning at 294 hours

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1832 Postby SFLcane » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:14 am

Could very easily end up in the eastern pacific... i understand the pattern is favorable but i'am just not a big fan of 200+hr models especially the bias the gfs has with the caribbean at this time of the year. We shall see
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1833 Postby HeeBGBz » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:45 am

Would this be the K storm? It's been woefully hot on the northern gulf coast. Heat index stays at about 106. Could use some rain in Biloxi just to cool down.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1834 Postby gatorcane » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:13 am

FV3 GFS with a hurricane into the Southern Lesser Antilles:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1835 Postby toad strangler » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:19 am

Just for laughs really, the 6z GFS has a cyclone in the same spot as the 6z FV3-GFS at 384 hours off the SE US coast BUT from completely different origins LOL
GFS brings up a system from the SW Caribbean and the FV-3 brings in a African system from the E
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1836 Postby SouthFLTropics » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:19 am

That 06z FV3 is eerily reminiscent of Matthew. I think it's becoming very clear that the Caribbean is going to have to be closely monitored beginning midweek next week.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1837 Postby Emmett_Brown » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:32 am

Climatologically it would make sense for at least 1-2 more Cape Verde storms to form before it all shuts down. So the FV3 seems reasonable.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1838 Postby CyclonicFury » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:36 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:Climatologically it would make sense for at least 1-2 more Cape Verde storms to form before it all shuts down. So the FV3 seems reasonable.

Euro also shows a weak MDR storm at the end of the run. The unreliable CMC shows two but it should not be taken seriously. MDR development in the last 10 days of September is not as rare as one might think, so it's certainly possible we squeeze out one more named storm from the MDR.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1839 Postby Emmett_Brown » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:22 am

CyclonicFury wrote:
Emmett_Brown wrote:Climatologically it would make sense for at least 1-2 more Cape Verde storms to form before it all shuts down. So the FV3 seems reasonable.

Euro also shows a weak MDR storm at the end of the run. The unreliable CMC shows two but it should not be taken seriously. MDR development in the last 10 days of September is not as rare as one night think, so it's certainly possible we squeeze out one more named storm from the MDR.


The FV3 shows the wave (that it later develops) moving off of Africa in about 72 hours at a very low latitude, looks below 10N. Plenty of warm water there too.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1840 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:52 am

Emmett_Brown wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:
Emmett_Brown wrote:Climatologically it would make sense for at least 1-2 more Cape Verde storms to form before it all shuts down. So the FV3 seems reasonable.

Euro also shows a weak MDR storm at the end of the run. The unreliable CMC shows two but it should not be taken seriously. MDR development in the last 10 days of September is not as rare as one night think, so it's certainly possible we squeeze out one more named storm from the MDR.


The FV3 shows the wave (that it later develops) moving off of Africa in about 72 hours at a very low latitude, looks below 10N. Plenty of warm water there too.


So, this is a much earlier wave than the one the Euro/EPS has been developing just off Africa near 9/25. This run ends on 10/4 with a H recurving NNE near 30N, 75W. Climowise, this FV3 scenario is quite possible.
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